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negrorunning
03-13-2003, 02:36 AM
Who's Better? The younger looking MJ in Kobe Bryant or the NBA's current leading scorer in Tracy McGrady??

gnr2k3
03-13-2003, 08:05 AM
I say Tracy McGrady, because I don't see anything in Kobe, especially a younger MJ

Robbriqash
03-13-2003, 09:15 AM
Hands down..... kobe Bryant is way better than what's his name! :thumbsup:

sweetmatt9
03-13-2003, 11:52 AM
tracy Mcgrady

TracyS831
03-13-2003, 02:12 PM
Im going with Tracy McGrady just because......well the name Tracy lol even tough Im a girl and he is a guy there is still that Tracy connection lol

ermines
03-13-2003, 11:05 PM
my votes goes to TMAC. it is just because i really don't like the Lakers team... don't know ehy...:confused2 :confused2

negrorunning
03-14-2003, 09:50 PM
Kobe Bryant is the next MJ!!!

jaedekdee
03-15-2003, 09:17 AM
KOBE BRYANT is the ..... better dude

marshall2391
03-15-2003, 12:54 PM
Kobe has 3 rings already...but they are both nice...My vote goes to Bryant.

Pol
03-16-2003, 01:35 PM
never heard of either of them

gnr2k3
03-16-2003, 09:17 PM
Kobe is no where near the next MJ...So drop it

negrorunning
03-17-2003, 12:30 PM
kobe is the closest thing to MJ that i've seen on a basketball court.... Yes he isn't the "man" or even "MJ" status yet... but only time will tell... As far as Kobe Vs. Tracy.... I think Kobe is better now, and but they are both improving so much its hard to tell

gnr2k3
03-18-2003, 08:23 PM
There isn't a such thing as "MJ" status. Neither of those two stars will ever rise to Michael Jordan's status. They aren't even in Michael's league....

justbballcom
03-20-2003, 01:32 AM
kobe, all the way

but you have to give props to tmac for carrying his team into the playoffs.

myoprisy
03-20-2003, 08:00 PM
kobe

rknrne
10-26-2003, 01:54 AM
kobe gets 5 years

X-Factor
10-26-2003, 01:09 PM
Kobe definitely. I mean, I'm not gonna compare him to MJ in his prime, cuz kobe aint there yet, but compare them at this time in their career, and kobe, and even TMAC, are much better. I'm looking forward to seeing these how these guys play once they hit their prime.

tmac
10-26-2003, 05:12 PM
big TMAC no doubt...at least he no rapest.

X-Factor
10-28-2003, 04:28 PM
hey he hasnt been proven guilty. u have an opinion about him goo, but until the trial is over, no one can say for sure. dam no one cared when jayson williams SHOT that guy, or even when oj KILLED his wife.

jpeaches1221
10-30-2003, 11:05 PM
Kobe is good but too cocky

fAMOUz fINCh
10-31-2003, 12:59 AM
mcgrady

non_prophet
11-01-2003, 11:19 PM
tmac all the way, kobe has much more market appeal being in LA,

vncwoo
11-02-2003, 12:00 AM
Defiinitely T-Mac, eventhough he's a traitor...Toronto developed him, then he leaves.... :(

sapro
11-04-2003, 05:09 AM
yea i'm with you
tracy mcgrady

sliq88
11-04-2003, 01:24 PM
I`d Have to say....




tracy.

soniclude
11-04-2003, 07:37 PM
Kobe Bryant all the way. Both are talented, but Kobe has that extra work ethic and drive that is going to get him to a higher level than Tracy "I'm so glad to be out of the first round" McGrady. :p

cremcee
11-05-2003, 08:03 PM
t-mac is great he is the best ever kobe cant even compare to him....kobe is just more commercialized thats it

axhawk
11-05-2003, 08:09 PM
tracy, most definately

john151
11-13-2003, 08:28 PM
Thats a jard choice, but I will have to go with KB.

jrnman214
11-14-2003, 07:46 PM
KOBE!@!!!!! IS INNOCENT and DA BEST

Young Ty
11-15-2003, 07:38 PM
kobe 4 sure

garschio
11-16-2003, 02:52 AM
kobe, kobe, and kobe

jason.san
11-17-2003, 05:56 AM
Gotta be Tracy, Kobe's too dodgy at the mo!

bigcno23
11-17-2003, 08:46 AM
man are both sick to tha teeth and can tear it up whoever the oponant is. Kobe with 50 points in numerous games straight and t-mac holding up his entire team and stil scoring 50 like the other night. Props to both of them don't hat on either.

One51
11-17-2003, 10:55 AM
Kobe by a long stretch...TMac is good, but Kobe is a way better overall player....

Although recently Kobe has been a distraction, and a scummy guy....

shahsiddique
11-17-2003, 12:31 PM
Kobe has got three championships in a row just like the man himself MJ...T-Mac has been to the playoffs, wooptie doo........Kobe hands down !!!

acid_dk
11-17-2003, 02:02 PM
The next Jordan would definitely be:

Kobe! He has everything his airness had: the fade, the air, the shot. I mean just look at the commercial where they do the jordan to kobe fade away jump shot transition. It's exactly the same (well, of course mj's is better). T-mac is only better is because he is there go-to guy. I love t-mac n all, he's on my fantasy team (good stats), but Kobe (although not that good of stats) has to play with 3 other superstars, actually I should say soon to be hall of famers, is definitely the heir to the throne of his airness.

MJ is still the best anyways.

Ghost13
11-17-2003, 09:37 PM
Of course Kobe. But both are really good players.

But TMAC gets my vote for better shoes.

gstar
11-19-2003, 07:13 PM
I say they are both good.

yoshi19
11-21-2003, 02:35 AM
Eventhough it doesn't spound like kobe wants to be in la next year, i would pick kobe. he seems to be the better all around player. If I had to replace him, my first choice would be McGrady

PIMPNaintEZ4
11-21-2003, 05:37 PM
Watch, kobes gonna be tighter than mj and he'll do tracy mcrady when he gets more practice. He's been out a lot cause of this gay trial but he'll be back. Especially with his stacked-ass team. The playoffs are gonna be fun this year.

shadow
11-21-2003, 08:04 PM
F*CK Em Both. CARMELO ANTHONY IS STEPPIN UP. in a year or two he'll be bankin on em.

rocaguinarda
11-25-2003, 06:29 AM
Kobe

X-Factor
12-01-2003, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by shadow
F*CK Em Both. CARMELO ANTHONY IS STEPPIN UP. in a year or two he'll be bankin on em.

keyword= banking

he'll be good, believe me, but he will never be on the kobe/tracy level

sixx pacc
12-11-2003, 07:33 PM
t macc baby

Neo11
12-12-2003, 10:17 PM
Kobe!

Monkeygirl
12-20-2003, 03:14 PM
i would have to say Tracy McGrady

Mannydas
12-20-2003, 06:51 PM
kobe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tien71700
12-20-2003, 06:58 PM
Both have skill. Kobe got mad hops tho. Not to mention 3 rings.

bigju4_eva
12-22-2003, 08:58 PM
Who's Team is Winning??

Yeah that's what I thought

cisnky
12-26-2003, 02:35 AM
Kobe could be in jail within a years time.

cisnky
12-26-2003, 02:37 AM
Anybody have any views on his current predicament?

cisnky
12-26-2003, 02:38 AM
The things you have to do just to increase your MB total.

tmac184
12-27-2003, 03:36 PM
dont get me rong im a big kobe and lakers fan but i gotta say its tmac. hez like pratcially carryin his team rite now.

ALWYZSYNCERE
12-30-2003, 07:41 PM
theyre both good, but at least the lakers can win a game every once in a while.

G-man
01-06-2004, 07:20 PM
What! What did McGrady do now?! :confused:
OH! Didn't read the question my bad! :laugh2: :laugh:

Koby then!

howyoudooin
01-11-2004, 10:05 PM
Before the whole sexual assault thing.....Hands down KoBe BrYaNt.....no doubt....but now....i thnk still Kobe....

T-hizzy
01-12-2004, 11:17 AM
tmac hands down. I reply to a bunch of these and heres the deal when you compare two players directly like "kobe vs tmac" you compare their ability as an individual. Kobe won three rings with shaq and the lakers, not by himself. Peeps forget that shaq is the reason for those rings. Shaq and any allstar wins a championship. kobe and any allstar doesn't. If you compare kobe to tmac staight up without team accomplishments then its tmac vs kobe. If you say kobe has three rings or they kick ass becuase they got malone, payton etc, whether you know it or not your comparing t-mac vs. the lakers as a whole. I mean a ring is great but having 1 doesn't make you the best player individually, look at john salley, dennis rodman, robert parish. some bench scrubs have more rings than shaq and kobe put together. So it should be kobe vs tmac not the lakers vs tmac.

comparing the two last year they both did great. But i think tmac gets the edge, The boy is sick with his moves, i mean throwing a pass to yourself in traffic aint easy, ask kobe he tried it and failed at it. too bad sportscenter decided to not play it alot.

example of individual:
your jumpshot, dunks, awards, skills,

example of team.
Champ ring, !5 game winning streak,

X-Factor
01-23-2004, 09:57 PM
Yes, but then you have to remember how Kobe stepped up when Shaq got injured last year. what was it, 8-12 games over 35 points in a row. how many times have we seen McGrady do that. If you dont remember, Shaq's gotten injured at least one the last 3 years, and whos always stepped up? I can guarantee u it wasn't derek fisher.:)

joshthejoker
01-26-2004, 02:04 PM
tmac comes close to kobe, but kobe can just go crazy when he wants to!

david_k
01-26-2004, 04:39 PM
Kobe is just on a good team. T-Mac all the way

T-hizzy
02-03-2004, 12:39 AM
yup i agree. For the lakers fan imagine the lakers without shaq,payton and malone for a year. Can you say Panic time. Yall don't realize what you have in shaq and the fellas. Kobe has help, Tmac has nothing. I have league pass and i watch every magic game and tmac's vertical leap had decreased, with the back injury and all the other injuries from carrying the team to the playoffs by himself. This seasons is showing the pain.
And tmac won the scoring title last year over kobe.

"what was it, 8-12 games over 35 points in a row. how many times have we seen McGrady do that" [X-Factor]

And to answer your question about kobe scoring all those points.

03 season:
Tmac scrored 30+ points a club-record 51 times and 40+ points a team-record 11 times. So lets put that together Tmac scored 30+ points 62 games out of 75.

Heres some more facts straight off nba.com

Tmac set team records with 14 straight 30+ point games (Mar. 5-Apr. 1, the second-longest streak in the NBA since 1975-76) and 45 consecutive 20+ point games (Dec. 25-Apr. 1)…Connected on at least one three-point FG in 50 straight games (Dec. 27-present), the longest current streak in the NBA

tmac over kobe anyday period

impact_blue5
02-13-2004, 01:44 PM
ay yo! wassup with Leborn!? naww. its all bout Kobe Byant.. Slam Dunk Giant!

d3fy_one
02-20-2004, 06:50 AM
tracy...but in my opinion allen iverson be better den em both

tnn531
02-27-2004, 03:43 PM
DEF. KOBE!

blinger189
03-14-2004, 09:44 AM
i think kobe bryant is better

Optical
03-15-2004, 04:56 PM
TM

Sierradoll
03-22-2004, 05:49 PM
Tracy McGrady because I like Magic. :)

eric_cl
03-24-2004, 09:32 AM
of course it is kobe.

pakman
03-25-2004, 06:34 PM
WOOT WOOT KOBE BRYANT!

acid_dk
03-30-2004, 03:29 PM
HANDS DOWN (well...not really, but you get what i'm try to say)

Kobe Bryant is definitely better. He has the "jordanesque" style and is the nba's (present) most clutch player. Also, his last couple of games (8 to be exact) he's been average 32+!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats insane!

Also, if n e of you have NBA TV and saw the Orland, Lakers game couple of weeks ago, you could see just how clutch kobe was.

That game was one of the greatest games of all time.

Tmac is awesome, but he gets depressed to easily.

VirusX
04-02-2004, 05:04 AM
Well. T-mac is a good scorer,
But I think Kobe is, too.
But Kobe is a bit too Luxurious.
Sooooo.....


T-MAC!!!

gen79
04-09-2004, 05:58 PM
kobe bryant all the way!!!!!!!!

Jenny002
04-12-2004, 01:16 AM
Kobe Bryant

X-Factor
04-15-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by T-hizzy
yup i agree. For the lakers fan imagine the lakers without shaq,payton and malone for a year. Can you say Panic time. Yall don't realize what you have in shaq and the fellas. Kobe has help, Tmac has nothing. I have league pass and i watch every magic game and tmac's vertical leap had decreased, with the back injury and all the other injuries from carrying the team to the playoffs by himself. This seasons is showing the pain.
And tmac won the scoring title last year over kobe.

"what was it, 8-12 games over 35 points in a row. how many times have we seen McGrady do that" [X-Factor]

And to answer your question about kobe scoring all those points.

03 season:
Tmac scrored 30+ points a club-record 51 times and 40+ points a team-record 11 times. So lets put that together Tmac scored 30+ points 62 games out of 75.

Heres some more facts straight off nba.com

Tmac set team records with 14 straight 30+ point games (Mar. 5-Apr. 1, the second-longest streak in the NBA since 1975-76) and 45 consecutive 20+ point games (Dec. 25-Apr. 1)…Connected on at least one three-point FG in 50 straight games (Dec. 27-present), the longest current streak in the NBA

tmac over kobe anyday period


but this was the 03 season. McGrady had a lot more help before the trade with Memphis. maybe McGrady's Magic wouldnt lose so much if he would have a little faith in his teammates and actually pass the ball

Biggy12
04-15-2004, 04:57 PM
kobe all the way, far better

johnsiy
04-30-2004, 03:26 PM
I vote for both because they're both good in their own ways.

bigfat!
05-15-2004, 02:49 PM
Kobe is playin just as good as Jordan did....


KOBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hudster
05-19-2004, 05:31 PM
t-mac hands down

kenshinx08
05-22-2004, 01:30 PM
kobe!!

XxCrOsSxX
05-27-2004, 10:22 PM
i think KObe should go to trial more often cuz hes better off running around the states and playing basketball at the same time....

mbclk55amg01
05-28-2004, 08:34 PM
t-mac

rknrne
06-03-2004, 10:08 AM
Who's got the ring?

G-man
06-03-2004, 12:39 PM
Which ring? :confused:
That big rock he bought for his wife after he finally admitted he messed up? :hit:

chrisjnelson
06-03-2004, 02:44 PM
Both are great. T-Mac just needs a better team around him.

monkeytrash
06-04-2004, 01:52 AM
I'm not gonna argue about the fact that kobe is on a good team and t mac is carrying his and all, that's fine. But in my opinion, kobe still carries his team of superstars, which is much more noteworthy than carrying some other sorry east coast team (who are these "magic" you speak of :confused2 ) . As for the "next MJ" thing...there is no next MJ, there is only a first kobe bryant. Although as i remember in my childhood watching MJ, and as i watch kobe now, if i had never heard the hype of kobe being the next MJ, I would note that the way he plays really reminds me of him. Except i think MJ was a bit more selfish with the ball (please don't bash me for this comment). But he had to be since he didn't have quite as good of a supporting cast (with all due respect to pippen, and john paxson's lucky 3pt shot in '93 [anybody remember that?] in the first 3 championship runs, and pippen, kerr, rodman, kukoc and co. in the second 3peat). If kobe didn't have that great team behind him stealing part of the show, I think he could outdo jordan both in exhibited talent and statistics. He's (arguably) just as good of a jump shooter, not quite as good of a dunker, but nearly as good of a clutch player, and (once again arguably) has a bit better court vision and ballhandling skills.

That said, Bryant > Mcgrady

monkeytrash
06-04-2004, 01:54 AM
ps: sorry for taking up so much forum space. i believe my post was the longest yet ;)

Robbriqash
06-06-2004, 11:10 PM
Kobe Bryant has madd skillz! No one can touch him on the court! Tracy McGrady needs to go sit down somewhere!

Diggy-Dog
06-09-2004, 03:43 PM
Kobe is great but Tracy is better!

T-Mac is one of the best Scorer even he has got the bad team.

hightide24
06-13-2004, 11:00 AM
McGrady is more unique... even has a signature move... throwing the ball off the backboard, rebounding it and dunking it all in one.... Kobe wants to be MJ so bad it's sad... he even talks and SOUNDS exactly like Mike...

XFr8TrainX
06-15-2004, 02:58 PM
Doesn't matter who you take...Pistons are going to win tonight anyway :-)

candigrlcan
06-21-2004, 07:52 PM
kobe!

vinsanity
06-22-2004, 10:28 PM
tmacs comin to houston for stevie franchise. yao may never see the ball again

damn van gundy

then again francis wasnt doing anything for us the last 2 years

tharpeezy
06-23-2004, 04:24 PM
both selfish, but bryant is better talent wise, mcgrady is more consistent, bryant hits clutch shots, almost even i would say.

asasas
06-28-2004, 10:13 AM
Tracy!

kissme2180
07-08-2004, 12:53 PM
kobe bryant is betta

uofmrapper
07-16-2004, 11:57 PM
t-mac i'm a pistons fan and i hate the lakers now -or what there is left of them

blue3eb1334
07-17-2004, 09:21 PM
Kobe owns everyone...no one can stop him

SoundofSulfu
07-19-2004, 01:29 PM
obviously tracy, kobe is to headstrong for his own good

minkus28007
07-20-2004, 10:56 PM
kobe has the work ethic to make himself great

chonny
08-09-2004, 02:05 PM
how did so many vote on this poll :confused2

alejandro7
08-24-2004, 10:43 PM
T-Mac, he's with Houston now, I'm from houston...at first i was upset they traded francis and mobley, but now it hit me that we got the best player in the league. so it's was a good trade. I hope the rockets do big things this year!!

mambolau
08-27-2004, 09:44 PM
mcgrady rules. the new generation.

djdiesel34
09-02-2004, 08:31 PM
Kobe is better for one main reason, he plays DEFENSE! Tracy runs away on the defensive end. How many 1st defensive teams as Tracy been on?

Not only that, Kobe is CLUTCH! Kobe has hit more game winning shots and made more game winning plays than Tracy ever has and will. Just ask yourself this...When the game is on the line, who would you rather have the ball?

GambleAddict
09-25-2004, 08:11 PM
all i can say is Kobe would be better for the fact that TMAC IS A BALL HOG!!!
but then again Kobe during the finals against the Pistons wasn't so hot... as he normally is...

p0rchmonkey
10-15-2004, 01:54 PM
tracy, i hate kobe

FSCFUBAR
10-17-2004, 02:22 PM
Kobe can't do anything w/o shaq and now that tmac has some1 tall around him he'll rape the league

ZelRiptha
11-01-2004, 11:48 AM
This has got to be the most voted (and thus annoying) thread in all of Chit Chat. A move to Polls, anyone?

CyberCat
11-01-2004, 09:11 PM
Kobe Bryant :D

:thumbsup:

ZelRiptha
11-02-2004, 11:59 AM
Hrm... *takes liberty*

CyberCat
11-02-2004, 12:22 PM
Good idea Zel, it really belongs, in the poll forum. :thumbsup:

G-man
11-09-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by ZelRiptha
This has got to be the most voted (and thus annoying) thread in all of Chit Chat.

:laugh: Perhaps a new poll too? Or is there already a "most annoying thread" on here? :-p

WW1000
11-18-2004, 10:51 AM
Me too!

CyberCat
11-18-2004, 02:13 PM
:laugh: a poll for a poll :rolleyes:

shadowscythe
11-27-2004, 04:09 PM
Not Kobe.

hapl_o
12-05-2004, 09:18 PM
kobe

ejstrayer
12-10-2004, 12:40 AM
The only thing Kobe has in common with MJ is that he's a ball hog!

vinsanity
12-10-2004, 06:38 PM
after last night's game my biased opinion swings even more towards tmac

13 points in 35 seconds... 4 straight 3 pointers :wow: :eek:

uno man
12-11-2004, 03:16 PM
i wouls say kobe, he is good at playing and he makes great jump shots and 3 pointers. i think he is getting rusty though

D_Mackdaddy
12-26-2004, 01:36 PM
I have to give it to Kobe man.....he's the one that's won the championships.....until Tracy can do that.....his individual stats ain't worth nothin.

etbury
01-10-2005, 05:43 PM
too bad Koby is such a cocky, arrogant, jerk.
He has mad skillz.

BarryC
01-13-2005, 03:13 PM
Hmmm....






Kobe

blumnmz03
01-29-2005, 04:21 PM
i havent seen nba for years but i do know who kobe bryant is, so i'm goin with him.

dz66
02-03-2005, 07:20 AM
They both suck. I would take Rip Hamilton any day of the week.

ital_gino25
02-03-2005, 10:25 AM
60% of my vote goes to tmac
40% to kobe

yea yea they r both good but kobe is a fu*kin rapist man LOL

and tmac has got wayyy better dunks, i mean cmon member dat dunk in da all star game a few years ago??....of da back board and dunk...lets c kobe do dat

Betty_Boop
02-09-2005, 09:26 AM
Never heard of either of them, can't say.

dpalmer
02-26-2005, 06:18 PM
tracy, hands down

hockeyman200
03-12-2005, 01:46 PM
Kobe i dotn like TMAC since he left t.o a long time ago

Betty_Boop
03-12-2005, 07:17 PM
Tracy McGrady.

Black Kite
03-16-2005, 07:00 PM
Kobe, hands down

gardog13
03-31-2005, 09:05 PM
Tracy McGrady because im a kings fan

Sharkbites
04-01-2005, 12:47 AM
Err Kobe in my opinion

gdroad
04-03-2005, 01:04 AM
Welll.....
here's a situation.... koby,tracey...tracey, koby.......

WHy does there always have to be a winner? Can't we just enjoy both?
Oh right....I need the cash!!

beaner
04-25-2005, 07:45 AM
mcgrady hands down

arnelvillar
05-17-2005, 06:24 AM
I'll go for TM. He is more better than anybody except my idol MJ.....who is already off in his basketaball career :smart: :smart: :smart: ...

nba-allstars
05-28-2005, 07:32 AM
www.nba-allstars.com
tell your friends!

dragonball
06-01-2005, 02:28 PM
yes i'd agree too.

pfcsantiago
08-12-2005, 11:28 PM
Who's Better? The younger looking MJ in Kobe Bryant or the NBA's current leading scorer in Tracy McGrady??


cm no contest. KB is da best. plus a ladies man and doesn't have a girly name :!:

jodymayfield
02-09-2006, 10:12 PM
I agree, ever since shaq left we see the real kobe. And after the rape trial, he finished.

dirty v
08-04-2007, 09:24 PM
kobe is da best

bloodwing198
04-01-2008, 09:28 AM
i guess tracy