Which makes the biggest difference in your t0N3 [Archive]

Odin

08-08-2003, 09:47 AM

"Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
message

> > Discuss......
>
> > String Gauge
>
> MOST definitely...

I notice a *slight* "tone" difference between 10's and 11's.
9's feel like rubber bands and start to lose any semblence
of balls and fat tone. When we're gigging 8-10 times per
month I usually go with 10's because I get less of the
sorefinger. I'm definitely not a "light touch" player so
the lighter strings make a difference in comfort more than
anything for me.

> > Pick Thickness
>
> MOST definitely...

I use a Fender Heavy pick. I go through at least 2 picks
per gig, the edge gets worn down and sharpened to the point
that I can't reuse the picks. Anything lighter and I break
them. I hate Totex picks, they feel terrible IMO and are
easily deformed when I hold them.

> Having both of the above allows you to attack the guitar
harder without
> wilting. That in itself changes the tone...

That's true. I notice a much bigger tonal difference on an
acoustic guitar, especially with pick thickness, but on an
electric I play what's most comfortable and what won't
break. Fender Heavy picks and D'Addario 10's or 11's.

Jeff Liberatore

08-08-2003, 10:15 AM

"Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> wrote in message news:3f33c5a6@shknews01...
>
> "Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
> message
>
> > > Discuss......
> >
> > > String Gauge
> >
> > MOST definitely...
>
> I notice a *slight* "tone" difference between 10's and 11's.
> 9's feel like rubber bands and start to lose any semblence
> of balls and fat tone. When we're gigging 8-10 times per
> month I usually go with 10's because I get less of the
> sorefinger. I'm definitely not a "light touch" player so
> the lighter strings make a difference in comfort more than
> anything for me.

I'm with you on all that... I can't say I really notice a tOn3 difference
with 9's and 10's, but what I DO notice is MY ability to affect the tone.
The tighter the string, the more able I am to pound it into submission. When
I rake an E chord from the high E that e string just spits out of my amp
with the 10's. When i used 9's the E just plain sucked... Wimpy sounding.

> I use a Fender Heavy pick. I go through at least 2 picks
> per gig, the edge gets worn down and sharpened to the point
> that I can't reuse the picks. Anything lighter and I break
> them. I hate Totex picks, they feel terrible IMO and are
> easily deformed when I hold them.

Ha Ha... that's why I use Tortex picks (.88's), I LIKE the fact they stay
slightly bent. Celebrate diversity and stuff. On acoustic I like the lighter
yellow ones. I think they are .74's or something...

Jeff

Nobody

08-08-2003, 10:26 AM

Jeff Liberatore <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in article <aiOYa.48901$hc.2108@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
>
> "Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> wrote in message news:3f32920b@shknews01...
> > Discuss......
>
> > String Gauge
>
> MOST definitely...
>
> > Pick Thickness
>
> MOST definitely...
>
> Having both of the above allows you to attack the guitar harder without
> wilting. That in itself changes the tone...
>
> Jeff

Odim will never understand, Jeff.

--
Jason
http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs

Charlie Escher

08-08-2003, 10:28 AM

Jeff Liberatore wrote:
> "Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> wrote in message news:3f33c5a6@shknews01...

>>I use a Fender Heavy pick. I go through at least 2 picks
>>per gig, the edge gets worn down and sharpened to the point
>>that I can't reuse the picks. Anything lighter and I break
>>them. I hate Totex picks, they feel terrible IMO and are
>>easily deformed when I hold them.
>
>
> Ha Ha... that's why I use Tortex picks (.88's), I LIKE the fact they stay
> slightly bent. Celebrate diversity and stuff. On acoustic I like the lighter
> yellow ones. I think they are .74's or something...

You guys ever tried the Dava picks? A Fender pick lasts me less than a
set usually (hey, I'm mainly a bass player, whatta ya expect?), but the
Davas last until I lose them (usually not till the "beer" set or load
out). The whole deal with the Dava is that you can really vary the
stiffness by how you hold it. Works great for me, but I don't know
anyone else who uses them. The local shop sells them, so someone else
must buy a few.

.cE

Grant

08-08-2003, 11:48 AM

Gamelan wrote:

>>
>>Pick Thickness
>
>
> This does make a big difference. I had a guitar teacher tell me, in the middle

Pick composition too, in my experience. Most commercial picks I have
tried are made of a fairly soft plastic. My favorite picks, made by
Martin, are made of a very rigid, hard polystyrene-like plastic that
gives me a good crisp attack on the string. Only problem was, they
tended to crack after a few hours of use. But I was willing to put up
with that because of how much better they sounded and felt. And now
Martin no longer makes them, and I've been unable to find an adequate
substitute! I bought up all the remaining ones available in stores in
Madison WI, and I've only got a couple dozen left. :-(

Odin

08-08-2003, 12:43 PM

"Charlie Escher" <charliejane@gorge.net> wrote in message

> >>I use a Fender Heavy pick. I go through at least 2
picks
> >>per gig, the edge gets worn down and sharpened to the
point
> >>that I can't reuse the picks. Anything lighter and I
break
> >>them. I hate Totex picks, they feel terrible IMO and
are
> >>easily deformed when I hold them.
> >
> >
> > Ha Ha... that's why I use Tortex picks (.88's), I LIKE
the fact they stay
> > slightly bent. Celebrate diversity and stuff. On
acoustic I like the lighter
> > yellow ones. I think they are .74's or something...
>
> You guys ever tried the Dava picks? A Fender pick lasts me
less than a
> set usually (hey, I'm mainly a bass player, whatta ya
expect?), but the
> Davas last until I lose them (usually not till the "beer"
set or load
> out). The whole deal with the Dava is that you can really
vary the
> stiffness by how you hold it. Works great for me, but I
don't know
> anyone else who uses them. The local shop sells them, so
someone else
> must buy a few.

Never tried those. Of course I never really looked at other
picks because I'm used to the old Fender Heavy. But I think
the fact that I'm grinding down the pick is OK because it's
that softness of the pick that I like. It's thick enough to
be very stiff but the material is soft enough to have some
"feel" to it.

Odin

08-08-2003, 12:44 PM

"Polfus" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message

> > > String Gauge
> >
> > MOST definitely...
> >
> > > Pick Thickness
> >
> > MOST definitely...
> >
> > Having both of the above allows you to attack the guitar
harder without
> > wilting. That in itself changes the tone...
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Odim will never understand, Jeff.

Hey Polfus, you ain't "attacking" your strings if you tune
9's down to dropped C. That guitar will not handle being
played with anything but the wimpiest touch before the
strings give out.

Jack A. Zucker

08-08-2003, 01:27 PM

Practicing. What a novel concept! :-)

Jack A. Zucker

08-08-2003, 01:27 PM

"Odin" <res0jmoj@REMOVEverizon.net> wrote in message news:<CpDYa.1550$bM6.1158@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>...
> "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message
>
> > Change a pick, you change your tone.
> >
> > It's that simple.
>
> This from the guy who ****canned his compressor because it was reducing his
> dynamics.

Man - You're always complaining and whining about him and look how you
respond to an honest and no bull posting of his...And you wonder?!?

john v verkuilen

08-08-2003, 01:29 PM

"Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> writes:

>"Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> wrote in message news:3f32920b@shknews01...
>> Discuss......

>> String Gauge

>MOST definitely...

I'd agree but I find that 9's help tame my tendency towards a heavy hand,
which is useful.

On an acoustic, string gauge makes a HUGE difference. On mine, I like a
standard set of lights (12-54 IIRC). The heavier bass strings of mediums or
medium bass light trebles bring out too much bass in the dreadnaught body in
standard tuning IMO. Lighter than 12s just sound horrid. (I really should get
an orchestra model one of these years.) Of course since I play acoustic drop D
a lot, a somewhat heavier 6th string wouldn't be a bad thing but that would
mean assembling custom sets of strings, which is a pain.

>> Pick Thickness

>MOST definitely...

Yep, though again I find that I want to balance weight of the pick with
desired flexibility. Heavier ain't necessarily better.

I like the Dunlop Yellow Tortex .73mm picks though I've been experimenting
with a nylon pick of late and of course really like plain fingers a lot.

>Having both of the above allows you to attack the guitar harder without
>wilting. That in itself changes the tone...

True but I find that backing off a little isn't a bad thing. If you smack
the hell out of your guitar all the time that's IMO the equivalent of keeping
your amp dimed all the time.

Jay
--
J. Verkuilen jayv@uiuc.edu
"You spend too much time reading, Spenser. You know more stuff that don't
make you money than anyone I know." --Lennie Seltzer (Robert B. Parker)

Nobody

08-08-2003, 01:40 PM

Jack A. Zucker <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in article <2f33c43f.0308081127.4eba2e75@posting.google.com>...

> Practicing. What a novel concept! :-)

I agree, bromandood.

Well..I call it "playing" as opposed to "practice"...I hate that word for some reason.

I believe playing all the time really is a great way to get better, as opposed to "practice", which to me entails going thru
scales, modes, etc....I try to PLAY that stuff and make it musical or find music in it...if I just "practiced", I'm not sure I
would have the same approach.

It remains cool to this day after playing for..what...6 years...to find music coming out of my amp from stuff I did on my own.

--
Jason
http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs

Nunya Bidni

08-08-2003, 01:43 PM

"Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
news:2f33c43f.0308081127.4eba2e75@posting.google.c om...
> Practicing. What a novel concept! :-)

Who'd 'a thunk it?!? ;)

Nobody

08-08-2003, 01:51 PM

Odin, Follower And Keeper Of The "Polfus" Flame <res0jmoj@verizon.net> wrote in article <3f33ef40@shknews01>...

> Hey Polfus, you ain't "attacking" your strings if you tune
> 9's down to dropped C. That guitar will not handle being
> played with anything but the wimpiest touch before the
> strings give out.

I defer your uninformed opinion to Black Sabbath and Tony Iommi.

--
Jason
http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs

Atlas

08-08-2003, 02:06 PM

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:43:28 GMT, "Nunya Bidni"
<bothersomeoneelse@home.com> wrote:

>
>"Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
>news:2f33c43f.0308081127.4eba2e75@posting.google.c om...
>> Practicing. What a novel concept! :-)
>
>Who'd 'a thunk it?!? ;)

I've been advocating that approach for a while now. (Doesn't
earn me very many points with the gear-obsessed).

Atlas

Charlie Escher

08-08-2003, 02:20 PM

Atlas wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:43:28 GMT, "Nunya Bidni"
> <bothersomeoneelse@home.com> wrote:
>
>>"Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
>>news:2f33c43f.0308081127.4eba2e75@posting.google.c om...
>>
>>>Practicing. What a novel concept! :-)
>>
>>Who'd 'a thunk it?!? ;)
>
> I've been advocating that approach for a while now. (Doesn't
> earn me very many points with the gear-obsessed).

Sure it does. We practice changing tone caps, pickups, amps, guitars,
and crew ****s regularly ;^}

.cE

Odin

08-08-2003, 02:45 PM

"Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message

> > "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > Change a pick, you change your tone.
> > >
> > > It's that simple.
> >
> > This from the guy who ****canned his compressor because
it was reducing his
> > dynamics.
>
> Man - You're always complaining and whining about him and
look how you
> respond to an honest and no bull posting of his...And you
wonder?!?

I don't wonder about anything. If it upsets you when I slap
my ***** I'll ask you to kindly look away.

Odin

08-08-2003, 02:47 PM

"Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message

> Practicing. What a novel concept! :-)

Practice don't pay and nobody ever showed me their tits for
practicing.

Atlas

08-08-2003, 04:06 PM

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:20:56 -0700, Charlie Escher
<charliejane@gorge.net> wrote:

>Sure it does. We practice changing tone caps, pickups, amps, guitars,
>and crew ****s regularly ;^}

Wisenheimer!

Atlas

Tukin Fourscan $and seven years ago$

08-08-2003, 07:09 PM

"Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> wrote

> nobody ever showed me their tits for
> practicing.

I thought TX chix were supposed to be EASY.

--
Toook!
Never mind THATshizzat! Lift the car off me!
toucan@mailblocks.com

Nobody

08-09-2003, 10:10 AM

Odumb <res0jmoj@REMOVEverizon.net> wrote in article

> "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message
>
> > Change a pick, you change your tone.
> >
> > It's that simple.
>
> This from the guy who ****canned his compressor because it was reducing his dynamics.

That's not exactly what I said, but you keep on thinking that.

And as for what I just said above, you talk **** when I said it changes the tone to change a pick.

But Jeff says the same damn thing, and you say:

> Having both of the above allows you to attack the guitar
harder without wilting. That in itself changes the tone...

>*That's true.* I notice a much bigger tonal difference on an
acoustic guitar, especially with pick thickness, but on an
electric I play what's most comfortable and what won't
break. Fender Heavy picks and D'Addario 10's or 11's.

Instead of worrying about me so much and making an ass out of yourself with everything you say, why not go plug in your electric
guitar and try to figure out why your index finger is so limited in it's ability to bend strings.

It takes a long time to get that vibrato just right so you better start today, son.

And go on a diet, for crying out loud.

--
Jason
http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs

Jeff Liberatore

08-09-2003, 10:22 AM

"Charlie Escher" <charliejane@gorge.net> wrote in message
news:vj7jthq6cal791@corp.supernews.com...
> Jeff Liberatore wrote:

> > Ha Ha... that's why I use Tortex picks (.88's), I LIKE the fact they
stay
> > slightly bent. Celebrate diversity and stuff. On acoustic I like the
lighter
> > yellow ones. I think they are .74's or something...

> You guys ever tried the Dava picks?

Yeah... It has those different degrees of flimsy... It goes back to the same
position every time. I think I just got used to the Tortex bending and
staying somewhat. Somehow I feel I can pick better with them slightly bent.
more control or something.

Jeff

Odin

08-09-2003, 01:39 PM

"Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message

> > > Change a pick, you change your tone.
> > >
> > > It's that simple.
> >
> > This from the guy who ****canned his compressor because it was reducing
his dynamics.
>
> That's not exactly what I said, but you keep on thinking that.

"Your exact words were "Folks...this pedal takes away just about all
dynamics between guitar and amp. In fact, with the level up, it even
distorts! What the fugg? Can't have that coming between me and my
Mesa/Boogie."

IOW, it reduced your dynamics so you ****canned it. Idiot.

> And as for what I just said above, you talk **** when I said it changes
the tone to change a pick.
>
> But Jeff says the same damn thing, and you say:
>
> > Having both of the above allows you to attack the guitar
> harder without wilting. That in itself changes the tone...
>
> >*That's true.* I notice a much bigger tonal difference on an
> acoustic guitar, especially with pick thickness, but on an
> electric I play what's most comfortable and what won't
> break. Fender Heavy picks and D'Addario 10's or 11's.

That's true, I do notice a much bigger difference with acoustic guitars. I
never implied that a pick change wouldn't affect tone, so what's your
point?

> Instead of worrying about me so much and making an ass out of yourself
with everything you say, why not go plug in your
> electric guitar and try to figure out why your index finger is so limited
in it's ability to bend strings.

I plugged in and played for 4 hours last night, didn't seem to have any
troubles with my index finger or my vibrato. Maybe the problem only occurs
when bedroom wanking?

> It takes a long time to get that vibrato just right so you better start
today, son.

It takes a long time to learn toplay even the simplest cover song, so you
better start today, son.

> And go on a diet, for crying out loud.
>
> --
> Polfus
> http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs

I've been eating your lunch on RMMG, maybe that's where the extra calories
are coming from.

Odin

08-09-2003, 01:39 PM

"Tukin Fourscan (and seven years ago)"
<touscan4kin@com-diddley-castaway.net> wrote in message

> > nobody ever showed me their tits for
> > practicing.
>
> I thought TX chix were supposed to be EASY.

Nobody told them, apparently.

Nobody

08-09-2003, 02:37 PM

Odim, The Fat Redneck Obsessed With "Polfus" <res0jmoj@REMOVEverizon.net> wrote in article
<t5cZa.7214$aE1.4586@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...

> IOW,

These will be YOUR words, NOT mine:

>it reduced your dynamics so you ****canned it.

I knew when I bought it that a compressor pedal reduces the dynamic range..I just didn't expect to have the dynamics taken all away
from my guitar and amp's interaction....but I learned and quick.

So again, YOU look like the idiot because you are taking what I said out of context and talking **** without regard to how dumb you
look do so.

> I plugged in and played for 4 hours last night, didn't seem to have any troubles with my index finger or my vibrato.

I don't believe you, fat boy...you already admitted you didn't understand how someone can use their index finger to do bends, and
everyone saw you write and admit it.

LOL!

>Maybe the problem only occurs when bedroom wanking?

Hell, I don't know what your problem is.

> It takes a long time to learn toplay even the simplest cover song

Well, when are you going to be able to do so without "honking" in the middle of a song?

You are terrible and everyone here knows it from your clips, so no need to worry about me at all, fat boy.

Everyone here knows that it is *YOU* that can't "play even the simplest cover song."

--
Jason
http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs

john v verkuilen

08-09-2003, 03:37 PM

Atlas <c1sublux@hotmail.comXXXSPAM> writes:

> I've been advocating that approach for a while now. (Doesn't
>earn me very many points with the gear-obsessed).

Or the simply obsessed for that matter.

Jay
--
J. Verkuilen jayv@uiuc.edu
"You spend too much time reading, Spenser. You know more stuff that don't
make you money than anyone I know." --Lennie Seltzer (Robert B. Parker)

Odin

08-09-2003, 04:53 PM

"Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message

> > IOW,
>
> These will be YOUR words, NOT mine:
>
> >it reduced your dynamics so you ****canned it.
>
> I knew when I bought it that a compressor pedal reduces the dynamic
range..I just didn't expect to have the dynamics taken
> all away from my guitar and amp's interaction....but I learned and quick.

You bought a compressor. Yoo stated that your amp was very dynamic and
that you didn't want anything reducing your dynamics. What were you
expecting the compressor to do for your sound?

> So again, YOU look like the idiot because you are taking what I said out
of context and talking **** without regard to how
> dumb you look do so.

Yes, you're right. You bought a compressor and then ****canned it because
it reduced your dynamics, but I look dumb. Whatever.

> > I plugged in and played for 4 hours last night, didn't seem to have any
troubles with my index finger or my vibrato.
>
> I don't believe you, fat boy...you already admitted you didn't understand
how someone can use their index finger to do bends, > and everyone saw you
write and admit it.

I said, and still don't know, that I didn't know what kind of blues bends
you were doing with your index finger. And you were never able to tell me,
so I guess you don't know either.

> LOL!

Har de har.

> >Maybe the problem only occurs when bedroom wanking?
>
> Hell, I don't know what your problem is.

I'm sane. That makes me seem strange to you. Ever notice how you seem to
have a problem with nearly *everyone* that you come into contact with?
Son, it's not that you're marching in step and the entire platoon is off,
it's that you're not in step with the platoon. Maybe someday you'll get
it.

> > It takes a long time to learn toplay even the simplest cover song
>
> Well, when are you going to be able to do so without "honking" in the
middle of a song?

I never "honked". If it had been me I would gladly own up to it, but it wa
s the other guitarists who make the "bike horn" sound. It's no big deal,
just one (of many) clams in a live recording, but you obsess over it. I'd
venture to say that most of us hit several clams per night when we're
playing live (I know I do). And most of us don't keep score. It's just
more minutia for you to obsess over, but for real guitar players the clam
is over the instant it's played and the song goes on.

> You are terrible and everyone here knows it from your clips, so no need
to worry about me at all, fat boy.

Yet I'm better than you, so when you insult my playing you are insulting
your playing even more. Think about it, hard.

> Everyone here knows that it is *YOU* that can't "play even the simplest
cover song."

Does everyone here know that? Some people hear have heard me play, I guess
they could corroborate your statement for you, but I don't hear them coming
forward so I'll have to assume that you are, once again, wrong.

Atlas

08-09-2003, 07:50 PM

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On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 21:37:15 GMT, jayv@uiuc.edu (john v verkuilen)
wrote:

>Or the simply obsessed for that matter.

He shoots! He scores!!!!!

Atlas

Not A Speck Of Cereal

08-10-2003, 09:23 PM

As "Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> so eloquently put:
[] Discuss......

Probably my Boss TK-1 pedal.

--
"My current strat is actually a hollow tele."
-- Fabio
Remove X's from my email address above to reply
[These opinions are personal views only and only my personal views]

Not A Speck Of Cereal

08-10-2003, 09:24 PM

As Charlie Escher <charliejane@gorge.net> so eloquently put:
[] Atlas wrote:
[] > <bothersomeoneelse@home.com> wrote:
[] >>"Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
[] >>
[] >>>Practicing. What a novel concept! :-)
[] >>
[] >>Who'd 'a thunk it?!? ;)
[] >
[] > I've been advocating that approach for a while now. (Doesn't
[] > earn me very many points with the gear-obsessed).
[]
[] Sure it does. We practice changing tone caps, pickups, amps, guitars,
[] and crew ****s regularly ;^}

Mmmmm, crew ****s...

--
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-- Fabio
Remove X's from my email address above to reply
[These opinions are personal views only and only my personal views]

Richard

08-10-2003, 10:01 PM

XchrissherwoodX@Xcomcast.netX wrote...
> As Charlie Escher <charliejane@gorge.net> so eloquently put:
> [] Atlas wrote:
> [] > <bothersomeoneelse@home.com> wrote:
> [] >>"Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
> [] >>
> [] >>>Practicing. What a novel concept! :-)
> [] >>
> [] >>Who'd 'a thunk it?!? ;)
> [] >
> [] > I've been advocating that approach for a while now. (Doesn't
> [] > earn me very many points with the gear-obsessed).
> []
> [] Sure it does. We practice changing tone caps, pickups, amps, guitars,
> [] and crew ****s regularly ;^}
>
> Mmmmm, crew ****s...

I was thinking that three days ago. What took ya so long?

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For email, put NOT SPAM in Subject or I'll probably miss it.
<><

Kate Ebneter

08-10-2003, 11:08 PM

Not A Speck Of Cereal wrote:
> As "Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> so eloquently put:
> [] Discuss......
>
> Probably my Boss TK-1 pedal.

I'll call bull**** on that. You don't have one of those.

I do, though. <evil grin>

Kate Ebneter
Collector of Noise Toys

Odin

08-11-2003, 12:09 AM

"Not A Speck Of Cereal" <XchrissherwoodX@Xcomcast.netX> wrote in message

> [] Discuss......
>
> Probably my Boss TK-1 pedal.

Is it TRUE BYPASS?

David and/or Rena Covell

08-11-2003, 06:03 AM

"Kate Ebneter" <ebneter@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:3F3724DF.5080905@ix.netcom.com...
> Not A Speck Of Cereal wrote:
> > As "Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> so eloquently put:
> > [] Discuss......
> >
> > Probably my Boss TK-1 pedal.
>
> I'll call bull**** on that. You don't have one of those.
>
> I do, though. <evil grin>
>
> Kate Ebneter
> Collector of Noise Toys

I'm green with envy. I've been looking for one of those for
years, and the only one I've yet seen was not for sale. Someone
posted one on ebay a while back, with a buy-now price of $850.
Imagine that! The ad was cancelled the same day, so I think
someone made him a direct offer.

Zorro_2K

08-11-2003, 07:27 PM

"Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> wrote in message news:3f32920b@shknews01...
> Discuss......
>
>
> TRUE BYPASS
>
> Wired/Wireless
>
> String Gauge
>
> Tuning Keys
>
> Pick Thickness
>
> Cable Length
>
> Brand of Effects Batteries
>
> Guitar Weight
>
> Amp Casters
>
> Strap Material
>
> Lightweight Tailpiece
>
> Flamed/Quilted Top
>
> Amp Grille Cloth Material
>
> *Grain* & "Figure"
>
> Medication for Bipolar Disorder
>
>
None of the above. It's # beers consummed by the end of the 2nd set.

Not A Speck Of Cereal

08-11-2003, 10:24 PM

As Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> so eloquently put:
[] XchrissherwoodX@Xcomcast.netX wrote...
[] > As Charlie Escher <charliejane@gorge.net> so eloquently put:
[] > [] Atlas wrote:
[] > [] > <bothersomeoneelse@home.com> wrote:
[] > [] >>"Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
[] > [] >>
[] > [] >>>Practicing. What a novel concept! :-)
[] > [] >>
[] > [] >>Who'd 'a thunk it?!? ;)
[] > [] >
[] > [] > I've been advocating that approach for a while now. (Doesn't
[] > [] > earn me very many points with the gear-obsessed).
[] > []
[] > [] Sure it does. We practice changing tone caps, pickups, amps, guitars,
[] > [] and crew ****s regularly ;^}
[] >
[] > Mmmmm, crew ****s...
[]
[] I was thinking that three days ago. What took ya so long?

Too busy changing tone caps.

Chris

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-- Fabio
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Not A Speck Of Cereal

08-11-2003, 10:26 PM

As Kate Ebneter <ebneter@ix.netcom.com> so eloquently put:
[] Not A Speck Of Cereal wrote:
[] > As "Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> so eloquently put:
[] > [] Discuss......
[] >
[] > Probably my Boss TK-1 pedal.
[]
[] I'll call bull**** on that. You don't have one of those.

I must confess, mine's just an early prototype.

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Kate Ebneter

08-12-2003, 10:24 PM

Not A Speck Of Cereal wrote:
> As Kate Ebneter <ebneter@ix.netcom.com> so eloquently put:
> [] Not A Speck Of Cereal wrote:
> [] > As "Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> so eloquently put:
> [] > [] Discuss......
> [] >
> [] > Probably my Boss TK-1 pedal.
> []
> [] I'll call bull**** on that. You don't have one of those.
>
> I must confess, mine's just an early prototype.

They *all* are. Heh.

When did you get yours? I know you were drooling over mine; I'm
glad I brought it along when we got together.

Kate Ebneter
Collector of Noise Toys

Not A Speck Of Cereal

08-12-2003, 11:41 PM

As Kate Ebneter <ebneter@ix.netcom.com> so eloquently put:
[] Not A Speck Of Cereal wrote:
[] > As Kate Ebneter <ebneter@ix.netcom.com> so eloquently put:
[] > [] Not A Speck Of Cereal wrote:
[] > [] > As "Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> so eloquently put:
[] > [] > [] Discuss......
[] > [] >
[] > [] > Probably my Boss TK-1 pedal.
[] > []
[] > [] I'll call bull**** on that. You don't have one of those.
[] >
[] > I must confess, mine's just an early prototype.
[]
[] They *all* are. Heh.
[]
[] When did you get yours? I know you were drooling over mine; I'm
[] glad I brought it along when we got together.

Actually, I must confess further: Mine is actually a clone created by
someone (a well know toaster tech) who deconstructed their own
prototype (being frustrated with the lack of marketing advances on the
prototypes). I'm no toaster tech myself, but I gather that it was
encased in a deeply tinted silicon. It couldn't have been easy to
reverse engineer.

At any rate, I can't speak about the specifics, due to the
non-disclosure agreement. The engineer in question is still awaiting
for patents applied. It is definitely improved upon the prototypes
(yes, there was more than one).

Chris

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"My current strat is actually a hollow tele."
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