View Full Version : Best Hi-Hat/Snare/Bass player?
Cell557107
08-14-2003, 12:37 AM
Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just the
hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum? I find it really challenging to just stick
to these and play many variations without going to other parts of the kit, IE.
ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good at
this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just came
up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
-Harish
Dennis B.
08-14-2003, 01:22 AM
in article 20030814023737.09115.00000509@mb-m05.aol.com, Cell557107 at
cell557107@aol.com wrote on 14-08-2003 08:37:
> Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just the
> hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum? I find it really challenging to just stick
> to these and play many variations without going to other parts of the kit, IE.
> ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good at
> this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just came
> up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
> -Harish
Ahmir Thompson...
grtz!
Dennis B.
The Baz
08-14-2003, 06:40 AM
Check out Jack DeJohnette's video clip on the Vic Firth site.
Baz
"Dennis B." <dboxem@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> in article 20030814023737.09115.00000509@mb-m05.aol.com, Cell557107 at
> cell557107@aol.com wrote on 14-08-2003 08:37:
>
> > Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just
the
> > hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum? I find it really challenging to just
stick
> > to these and play many variations without going to other parts of the
kit, IE.
> > ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good
at
> > this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just
came
> > up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
> > -Harish
>
> Ahmir Thompson...
>
>
> grtz!
>
> Dennis B.
>
kyrre laastad
08-14-2003, 06:48 AM
theres a norwegian player called anders engen who uses that setup only, but
sometimes with a cymbal as well. his approach to playing the snare, bass and
hi-hat is quite unique, and he uses cross-sticking, brushes and his hands a
lot.
i can upload some of my favourite things that he is on, if you guys want...
-k
Dan Dove
08-14-2003, 08:05 AM
"Cell557107" <cell557107@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030814023737.09115.00000509@mb-m05.aol.com...
> Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just
the
> hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum? I find it really challenging to just
stick
> to these and play many variations without going to other parts of the kit,
IE.
> ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good
at
> this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just
came
> up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
> -Harish
He doesn't necessarily stay on them all the time, but when he does, Carter
Beauford does some great stuff there! You can tell his grooves right away
from what's going on on the HH, sweet stuff....
Ross Vandegrift
08-14-2003, 08:30 AM
In article <BB61056B.5692%dboxem@hotmail.com>, Dennis B. wrote:
>> ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good at
>> this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just came
>> up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
>> -Harish
>
> Ahmir Thompson...
All the way man - I love his grooves.
--
Ross Vandegrift
ross@willow.seitz.com
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He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a Holy-Water Cannon.
He Blesses it. It is a Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He makes it official. It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
Batman and Robin arrive. He shoots them.
Pat McDonald
08-14-2003, 10:46 AM
In article <20030814023737.09115.00000509@mb-m05.aol.com>, Cell557107
<cell557107@aol.com> wrote:
> Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just the
> hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum? I find it really challenging to just stick
> to these and play many variations without going to other parts of the kit, IE.
> ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good at
> this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just came
> up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
> -Harish
Garibaldi. 'nuff said......
Pat
JDiddy
08-14-2003, 12:08 PM
Zigaboo Modeliste!
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"Cell557107" <cell557107@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030814023737.09115.00000509@mb-m05.aol.com...
> Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just
the
> hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum? I find it really challenging to just
stick
> to these and play many variations without going to other parts of the kit,
IE.
> ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good
at
> this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just
came
> up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
> -Harish
morris
08-14-2003, 01:22 PM
"Dan Dove" <dandove1@cox.net> wrote in message news:<EFM_a.11097$qf.1716@lakeread06>...
> "Cell557107" <cell557107@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030814023737.09115.00000509@mb-m05.aol.com...
> > Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just
> the
> > hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum? I find it really challenging to just
> stick
> > to these and play many variations without going to other parts of the kit,
> IE.
> > ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good
> at
> > this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just
> came
> > up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
> > -Harish
>
> He doesn't necessarily stay on them all the time, but when he does, Carter
> Beauford does some great stuff there! You can tell his grooves right away
> from what's going on on the HH, sweet stuff....
for me, it's the live Average White Band -Person to Person.
ferrone is just tearing that stuff up.
Dav1936531
08-14-2003, 06:24 PM
>From: cell557107@aol.com (Cell557107)
><20030814023737.09115.00000509@mb-m05.aol.com>
>
>Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just the
hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum?
Since you included the BD in there, I'd have to say Bonham rock-wise......but,
the single greatest hi-hat player I ever saw was Buddy. That guy could do more
on a hi-hat then you could believe, unless you saw it yourself. Started every
tune in the show I saw him do with a hi-hat solo to set up the tempo. Freaking
incredible playing.
Dave
Anthony Giampa
08-15-2003, 02:59 AM
Meg White. =)
j/k.
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"Cell557107" <cell557107@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030814023737.09115.00000509@mb-m05.aol.com...
> Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just
the
> hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum? I find it really challenging to just
stick
> to these and play many variations without going to other parts of the kit,
IE.
> ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good
at
> this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just
came
> up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
> -Harish
George Lawrence
08-15-2003, 08:12 AM
Kick/hat/snare playing is usually referring to drummers who specialize in
playing primarily those three instruments as the basis of their "kit" . Most
of these drummers usually play in the r&b genre. James Brown's drummers are
the archtypical k/s/h players. Bonham and Rich were not k/s/h players per
se.
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
1351 S. Cleveland-Massillon Road #21
Copley, Ohio 44321
http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
http://www.Drumguru.com
330 670 0800
toll free 866 970 0800
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
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> >From: cell557107@aol.com (Cell557107)
> ><20030814023737.09115.00000509@mb-m05.aol.com>
> >
> >Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just
the
> hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum?
>
> Since you included the BD in there, I'd have to say Bonham
rock-wise......but,
> the single greatest hi-hat player I ever saw was Buddy. That guy could do
more
> on a hi-hat then you could believe, unless you saw it yourself. Started
every
> tune in the show I saw him do with a hi-hat solo to set up the tempo.
Freaking
> incredible playing.
> Dave
Bill Le May
08-15-2003, 09:02 AM
"George Lawrence" <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote...
> Kick/hat/snare playing is usually referring to drummers who specialize in
> playing primarily those three instruments as the basis of their "kit" .
Most
> of these drummers usually play in the r&b genre. James Brown's drummers
are
> the archtypical k/s/h players. Bonham and Rich were not k/s/h players per
> se.
How about Mike Clark with Herbie Hancock and Headhunters?
benrand
08-15-2003, 10:03 AM
On 14 Aug 2003 06:37:37 GMT, cell557107@aol.com (Cell557107) wrote:
>Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just the
>hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum? I find it really challenging to just stick
>to these and play many variations without going to other parts of the kit, IE.
>ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good at
>this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just came
>up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
>-Harish
Garibaldi
Ziggy Modeliste
Porcaro
Chris Milillo
08-15-2003, 01:10 PM
"Bill Le May" <blemay0@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:9C6%a.150990
>
> How about Mike Clark with Herbie Hancock and Headhunters?
AMEN
CM
George Lawrence
08-15-2003, 05:40 PM
I think Mike Clark sprang forth from the head of Zeus in the pantheon of
k/s/h players. Palm Grease says it all.
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
1351 S. Cleveland-Massillon Road #21
Copley, Ohio 44321
http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
http://www.Drumguru.com
330 670 0800
toll free 866 970 0800
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"Bill Le May" <blemay0@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> "George Lawrence" <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote...
> > Kick/hat/snare playing is usually referring to drummers who specialize
in
> > playing primarily those three instruments as the basis of their "kit" .
> Most
> > of these drummers usually play in the r&b genre. James Brown's drummers
> are
> > the archtypical k/s/h players. Bonham and Rich were not k/s/h players
per
> > se.
>
> How about Mike Clark with Herbie Hancock and Headhunters?
>
>
Steve Gardner
08-15-2003, 05:58 PM
"George Lawrence" <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> I think Mike Clark sprang forth from the head of Zeus in the pantheon of
> k/s/h players. Palm Grease says it all.
>
> --
> George Lawrence
> George's Drum Shop
> 1351 S. Cleveland-Massillon Road #21
> Copley, Ohio 44321
> http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
> http://www.Drumguru.com
> 330 670 0800
> toll free 866 970 0800
>
> "If thine enemy wrong thee,
> buy each of his children a drum."
> -Chinese proverb
>
>
>
>
> "Bill Le May" <blemay0@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:9C6%a.150990$uu5.23205@sccrnsc04...
> > "George Lawrence" <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote...
> > > Kick/hat/snare playing is usually referring to drummers who specialize
> in
> > > playing primarily those three instruments as the basis of their "kit"
..
> > Most
> > > of these drummers usually play in the r&b genre. James Brown's
drummers
> > are
> > > the archtypical k/s/h players. Bonham and Rich were not k/s/h players
> per
> > > se.
> >
> > How about Mike Clark with Herbie Hancock and Headhunters?
> >
> >
>
>
Dave Garabaldi
DrumSac
08-17-2003, 08:29 AM
"Chris Milillo" <drums@bestweb.net> wrote in message news:<bhjb71$fr$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
> "Bill Le May" <blemay0@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:9C6%a.150990
> >
> > How about Mike Clark with Herbie Hancock and Headhunters?
>
> AMEN
>
> CM
Agreed. Now can I get an amen for Clyde Stubblefield and Zigaboo?
-Sac
Chris Milillo
08-17-2003, 09:40 AM
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> "Chris Milillo" <drums@bestweb.net> wrote in message
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> > "Bill Le May" <blemay0@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:9C6%a.150990
> > >
> > > How about Mike Clark with Herbie Hancock and Headhunters?
> >
> > AMEN
> >
> > CM
>
> Agreed. Now can I get an amen for Clyde Stubblefield and Zigaboo?
>
> -Sac
Hallelujah! (And if you have Clyde in there, you can't forget Jabo!)
CM
DJ Bjorklund
08-17-2003, 10:23 AM
On 14 Aug 2003 06:37:37 GMT, cell557107@aol.com (Cell557107) wrote:
>Who, in your opnion plays the most intrestingly and expressively on just the
>hi-hat, snare drum and bass drum? I find it really challenging to just stick
>to these and play many variations without going to other parts of the kit, IE.
>ride or toms. I couldnt think of too many drummers that are really good at
>this. Most jazz drummers seem to rely a lot on the ride. So far I just came
>up with Stuart Copeland. Any others?
>-Harish
If its good, better, best, I don't know, but I really like how Rick
Marrota describes his experience with Fagan and Becker during his
"Peg" session for SD's Aja album, from the "Making of" DVD series.
Speaking of the groove he supplied for that number, he explains that
he'd often done similar sort of subtle grooves involving perhaps the
slight opening of the hats at certain points in those grooves, and how
that on the final version of that tune he was really surprised that he
could actually for once HEAR it.
A final question on that DVD, while it's a lot of fun to watch,
conspicuous in his absence is Mr. Gadd. Is that just weak producing,
or doesn't he do stuff like that?
Jay Epstein
08-20-2003, 09:16 AM
"Bill Le May" <blemay0@mchsi.com> wrote:
>How about Mike Clark with Herbie Hancock and Headhunters?
Ding, Ding! We have our winner, folks.
If you dig Mike's funk playing, this is even more outragous:
http://www.mikeclarkmusic.com/theFunkStopsHere.htm
Jay
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