transporting good mics to/from location gigs

[hollywood_steve]

Now that my location recording work is becoming more frequent, little
logistical things are becoming more important, like transporting
microphones. For the simple stereo gigs, nothing could be easier than
packing up the single wood box containing the stereo pair. But what
about those gigs that require 6 or 8 microphones (or more)? Its swell
that every mic that sells for more than $299 these days seems to come
in a nice wood box, or at least a hard plastic case, but how do you
move 8 wood boxes around? I thought about buying a suitcase-sized
Pelican case and arranging the interior foam to accept all of the wood
mic boxes. The obvious downside to that idea is that you have created
a thief's fantasy: all of your most expensive toys in one easily
removed package. (but that's obvious; anything that makes it easy for
me to transport gear to/from gigs will make it just as easy for a
thief to remove when your eyes turn away for a second.) And a quick
sketch determined that just 8 mic cases would require at least two of
the $300 size Pelican cases. There's gotta be a better way........

Those multiple mic transport cases from SKB are horribly flawed in
several ways: they're made by SKB, they assume every mic you own is
shaped like an SM58 and they don't provide much space for all of the
accessories that are in the wood boxes; clips, adapters, foam, etc.

To anybody who regularly takes their good mics out on location
recording jobs, how do you transport large quantities of expensive
mics (more than 3 or 4)?

thanks.

steve
lex125@pacbell.net
www.lexington125.com

[Troy]

Just put them in a plastic bag (in case of moisture and make a foam lined
case for them and be very carfule not to drop it.Very simple




hollywood_steve <sjp@soca.com> wrote in message
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> Now that my location recording work is becoming more frequent, little
> logistical things are becoming more important, like transporting
> microphones. For the simple stereo gigs, nothing could be easier than
> packing up the single wood box containing the stereo pair. But what
> about those gigs that require 6 or 8 microphones (or more)? Its swell
> that every mic that sells for more than $299 these days seems to come
> in a nice wood box, or at least a hard plastic case, but how do you
> move 8 wood boxes around? I thought about buying a suitcase-sized
> Pelican case and arranging the interior foam to accept all of the wood
> mic boxes. The obvious downside to that idea is that you have created
> a thief's fantasy: all of your most expensive toys in one easily
> removed package. (but that's obvious; anything that makes it easy for
> me to transport gear to/from gigs will make it just as easy for a
> thief to remove when your eyes turn away for a second.) And a quick
> sketch determined that just 8 mic cases would require at least two of
> the $300 size Pelican cases. There's gotta be a better way........
>
> Those multiple mic transport cases from SKB are horribly flawed in
> several ways: they're made by SKB, they assume every mic you own is
> shaped like an SM58 and they don't provide much space for all of the
> accessories that are in the wood boxes; clips, adapters, foam, etc.
>
> To anybody who regularly takes their good mics out on location
> recording jobs, how do you transport large quantities of expensive
> mics (more than 3 or 4)?
>
> thanks.
>
> steve
> lex125@pacbell.net
> www.lexington125.com

[Ron Charles]

Other than either a large 1500 series Pelican case with a Defcon motion
detector lock and alarm, or a ATA style roadcase, there is not much of a
choice. On my cart, I have locking draws, so I just wheel in all my gear and
lock it down tight and enable a pair of defcons.
RON CHARLES
Location Sound Recordist
"hollywood_steve" <sjp@soca.com> wrote in message
news:55147cb4.0308141249.1ad088e5@posting.google.c om...
> Now that my location recording work is becoming more frequent, little
> logistical things are becoming more important, like transporting
> microphones. For the simple stereo gigs, nothing could be easier than
> packing up the single wood box containing the stereo pair. But what
> about those gigs that require 6 or 8 microphones (or more)? Its swell
> that every mic that sells for more than $299 these days seems to come
> in a nice wood box, or at least a hard plastic case, but how do you
> move 8 wood boxes around? I thought about buying a suitcase-sized
> Pelican case and arranging the interior foam to accept all of the wood
> mic boxes. The obvious downside to that idea is that you have created
> a thief's fantasy: all of your most expensive toys in one easily
> removed package. (but that's obvious; anything that makes it easy for
> me to transport gear to/from gigs will make it just as easy for a
> thief to remove when your eyes turn away for a second.) And a quick
> sketch determined that just 8 mic cases would require at least two of
> the $300 size Pelican cases. There's gotta be a better way........
>
> Those multiple mic transport cases from SKB are horribly flawed in
> several ways: they're made by SKB, they assume every mic you own is
> shaped like an SM58 and they don't provide much space for all of the
> accessories that are in the wood boxes; clips, adapters, foam, etc.
>
> To anybody who regularly takes their good mics out on location
> recording jobs, how do you transport large quantities of expensive
> mics (more than 3 or 4)?
>
> thanks.
>
> steve
> lex125@pacbell.net
> www.lexington125.com

[Patric D'Eimon]

What I love and still use are several of the vintage (as in old) Samsonite
suitcases. They are different shades of brown and are built amazingly strong.
I've gotten all of mine at flea markets and garage sales. You can use both the
top and bottoms of the case. Pack them with the foam of your choosing and use
1/8" or 1/4" plywood for dividers. I use them for mixers, mikes, accessories,
etc...It may sound like irresponsible heresy but I choose them over the Anvil
cases that I have. I think they are less conspicuous and tempting to the evil
minded. I think they lend a terrific amount of funky panache to the whole deal
too! My 2c...Patric

Ron Charles wrote:

> Other than either a large 1500 series Pelican case with a Defcon motion
> detector lock and alarm, or a ATA style roadcase, there is not much of a
> choice. On my cart, I have locking draws, so I just wheel in all my gear and
> lock it down tight and enable a pair of defcons.
> RON CHARLES
> Location Sound Recordist
> "hollywood_steve" <sjp@soca.com> wrote in message
> news:55147cb4.0308141249.1ad088e5@posting.google.c om...
> > Now that my location recording work is becoming more frequent, little
> > logistical things are becoming more important, like transporting
> > microphones. For the simple stereo gigs, nothing could be easier than
> > packing up the single wood box containing the stereo pair. But what
> > about those gigs that require 6 or 8 microphones (or more)? Its swell
> > that every mic that sells for more than $299 these days seems to come
> > in a nice wood box, or at least a hard plastic case, but how do you
> > move 8 wood boxes around? I thought about buying a suitcase-sized
> > Pelican case and arranging the interior foam to accept all of the wood
> > mic boxes. The obvious downside to that idea is that you have created
> > a thief's fantasy: all of your most expensive toys in one easily
> > removed package. (but that's obvious; anything that makes it easy for
> > me to transport gear to/from gigs will make it just as easy for a
> > thief to remove when your eyes turn away for a second.) And a quick
> > sketch determined that just 8 mic cases would require at least two of
> > the $300 size Pelican cases. There's gotta be a better way........
> >
> > Those multiple mic transport cases from SKB are horribly flawed in
> > several ways: they're made by SKB, they assume every mic you own is
> > shaped like an SM58 and they don't provide much space for all of the
> > accessories that are in the wood boxes; clips, adapters, foam, etc.
> >
> > To anybody who regularly takes their good mics out on location
> > recording jobs, how do you transport large quantities of expensive
> > mics (more than 3 or 4)?
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > steve
> > lex125@pacbell.net
> > www.lexington125.com

[LeBaron & Alrich]

hollywood_steve <sjp@soca.com> wrote:

> To anybody who regularly takes their good mics out on location
> recording jobs, how do you transport large quantities of expensive
> mics (more than 3 or 4)?

I bought several toolboxes from Lowe's. They're metal sheathed, carry-on
sized, with diced foam in the chassis and foam in the lid, both
remvoable if you want. They're made in China and they were $24.68 each
plus tax. I learned of them from a David Das post to the MIO list. I'm
using them for lots of stuff, including one for the MIO and TiBook plus
power supplies and miscellaneous wires, others for mics, etc. Pretty
good value. They're not Pelicans but I don't need that kind of
protection right now and when I do, these will still be useful.

--
hank alrich * secret mountain
audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
"If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"

[John L Rice]

I've never heard of this. How would shorting the terminals affect the cone
movement at all? Is there a concern about static charges or stray magnetic
fields modulating the cone or ???

John L Rice
Drummer@ImJohn.com

" AT" <spamnenot@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:c8V_a.9971$rh1.8830@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> it is interesting, as some speaker companies suggest that the output of
> their speakers be shorted for transportation.doing it does hold the cone
> very tight.
>
> i wonder if this makes any difference with mics.
>
> hummm......
>
>
>

[AT]

it is interesting, as some speaker companies suggest that the output of
their speakers be shorted for transportation.doing it does hold the cone
very tight.

i wonder if this makes any difference with mics.

hummm......

[Harvey Gerst]

"John L Rice" <Drummer@ImJohn.com> wrote:

>I've never heard of this. How would shorting the terminals affect the cone
>movement at all? Is there a concern about static charges or stray magnetic
>fields modulating the cone or ???

John,

Some of the induced cone motion would be damped by the back EMF, created by the
voice coil.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://www.ITRstudio.com/

[John L Rice]

"Harvey Gerst" <harvey@ITRstudio.com> wrote in message
news:mdoojvsop7t0f88vvub1n23g2p147111vp@4ax.com...
> "John L Rice" <Drummer@ImJohn.com> wrote:
>
> >I've never heard of this. How would shorting the terminals affect the
cone
> >movement at all? Is there a concern about static charges or stray
magnetic
> >fields modulating the cone or ???
>
> John,
>
> Some of the induced cone motion would be damped by the back EMF, created
by the
> voice coil.
>
> Harvey Gerst
> Indian Trail Recording Studio
> http://www.ITRstudio.com/

Ahhhhhh, ok, that makes sense.

Thanks much Harvey!

John L Rice
Drummer@ImJohn.com

[Rob Adelman]

Harvey Gerst wrote:
> "John L Rice" <Drummer@ImJohn.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I've never heard of this. How would shorting the terminals affect the cone
>>movement at all? Is there a concern about static charges or stray magnetic
>>fields modulating the cone or ???
>
>
> John,
>
> Some of the induced cone motion would be damped by the back EMF, created by the
> voice coil.
>

The stuff you learn here! Simple things that you just would have never
thought of :)

Now that you have me thiniking, why not electromagnetic shock absorbers
for cars? They could be controlled by a microprocessor. Phase
cancellation for bumps..

[Chris Hornbeck]

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 05:18:40 GMT, Rob Adelman <radelman@mn.rr.com>
wrote:

>The stuff you learn here! Simple things that you just would have never
>thought of :)

But why would they bother? Meter movements are shipped this
way to protect their delicate movements. But speakers?

>Now that you have me thinking, why not electromagnetic shock absorbers
>for cars? They could be controlled by a microprocessor. Phase
>cancellation for bumps..

It'd take some big motors, but could be done. Probably has
been, somewhere somewhen.

Chris Hornbeck
http://www.votetoimpeach.org/

[Dale Farmer]

hollywood_steve wrote:

> Now that my location recording work is becoming more frequent, little
> logistical things are becoming more important, like transporting
> microphones. For the simple stereo gigs, nothing could be easier than
> packing up the single wood box containing the stereo pair. But what
> about those gigs that require 6 or 8 microphones (or more)? Its swell
> that every mic that sells for more than $299 these days seems to come
> in a nice wood box, or at least a hard plastic case, but how do you
> move 8 wood boxes around? I thought about buying a suitcase-sized
> Pelican case and arranging the interior foam to accept all of the wood
> mic boxes. The obvious downside to that idea is that you have created
> a thief's fantasy: all of your most expensive toys in one easily
> removed package. (but that's obvious; anything that makes it easy for
> me to transport gear to/from gigs will make it just as easy for a
> thief to remove when your eyes turn away for a second.) And a quick
> sketch determined that just 8 mic cases would require at least two of
> the $300 size Pelican cases. There's gotta be a better way........
>
> Those multiple mic transport cases from SKB are horribly flawed in
> several ways: they're made by SKB, they assume every mic you own is
> shaped like an SM58 and they don't provide much space for all of the
> accessories that are in the wood boxes; clips, adapters, foam, etc.
>
> To anybody who regularly takes their good mics out on location
> recording jobs, how do you transport large quantities of expensive
> mics (more than 3 or 4)?
>
> thanks.

If you still have all the individual boxes and bags for the mics, then
you
just need a large enough box to stack them all in, with some filler to
keep
the boxes and bags from rattling around. I've seen folks using army
surplus ammo cans, various road cases with foam and shelving inside,
suitcases, and locking drawers in the amp rack.
There are a couple of concerns with a roadable mic box. Obviously
they have to protect the microphones from mechanical damage during
transport. Accessories want to be right there as well, so you don't have
to waste time hunting them down. Protection from weather, if you have
to load the truck in a downpour, or your gig is outdoors. Anti-theft
precautions, as microphones are usually the most portable high-value
items in a recording rig.
One of the most theft resistant ones I ever saw was a road case that
had removable wheels, and about 250 pounds of sheet lead lining the
bottom of the case. Once it was on location, he tipped up each end in
turn and removed the wheels, then the wheels were locked inside the
box. padlock on the outside, inside was a really loud alarm siren and
an hidden control panel you had to punch a code into within a few
seconds of opening the top. There was a mode to put it into for the
actual recording time, before it armed itself. He was talking about
adding a GPS receiver and cell phone to it, so if the case went missing,
he could call the thing up and ask it where it was. He was, of course,
something of a compulsive electronics hobbyist.
But, back to your particular situation. with less than a dozen mics,
you probably don't want or need one of the larger designed mic
boxes. Assuming your mics are not large unwieldy ones, I's shop
around for a decent briefcase that is large enough for all your mics
and accessories, plus room for a few other things. Lockable, but
not something that screams out to the random luggage thief ' I'm
valuable! STEAL ME! '. Easy enough for you to take back to
your hotel room at the end of the day's work or travel. Small
enough that it can be put in the cable box and buried in all the
cables. ( and you need the cables too, when you put the mics up. )
Small enough that you don't have to check it as luggage on the
airline. ( What is easier to replace at a gig? Some clothes and
toothpaste or your microphone collection? )
Have another road case, the one that you don't keep anything
irreplaceable in, be the one covered with FRAGILE stickers, and
have the padlock and bicycle chain on that case. That case distracts
the uninformed thief targeting your gear into stealing a box full of
microphone stand bases or extra sandbags or whatnot.

--Dale

[Benjamin Maas]

I use milk crates and those hanging file folder boxes you can get from
Costco or Office Depot. (they are clear plastic with a top that folds over
and locks in place. They can stack as well... Very inexpensive and they
can hold lots o' "stuff" including clips, shockmounts, etc... The
individual mics pretty much all come in good boxes so they just stack inside
the crates.

--Ben

--
Benjamin Maas
Fifth Circle Audio
Los Angeles, CA
http://www.fifthcircle.com

[ScotFraser]

<< And a quick
sketch determined that just 8 mic cases would require at least two of
the $300 size Pelican cases. There's gotta be a better way........>>

Location Sound's rental department regularly sells off used Pelicans (I think
it's the 1600 size) for about $70. Get a couple of those. 818-980-9891.
Also check out the briefcase size Chinese made tool box at Home Depot. I think
it's $30, has an easily removed tool pallette inside & is aluminum skin over
luan/ply construction. Won't do well if it takes a lot of hits, but for in town
transit in your car, it's good enough. Holds about a a half dozen Neumann
cherry boxes.

Those multiple mic transport cases from SKB are horribly flawed in
several ways: they're made by SKB, they assume every mic you own is
shaped like an SM58 and they don't provide much space for all of the
accessories that are in the wood boxes; clips, adapters, foam, etc.

To anybody who regularly takes their good mics out on location
recording jobs, how do you transport large quantities of expensive
mics (more than 3 or 4)?

thanks.

steve
lex125@pacbell.net
www.lexington125.com





>>



Scott Fraser

[ScotFraser]

<< Now that you have me thiniking, why not electromagnetic shock absorbers
for cars? They could be controlled by a microprocessor. Phase
cancellation for bumps.. >>

That's somewhat similar to the Citroen system, which is hydraulic. The car is
always level, as fluid gets pumped to whichever wheel is lowest, although it's
not fast enough to even out bumps.
Scott Fraser

[LeBaron & Alrich]

P Stamler <pstamler@aol.com> wrote:

> Like Patric, I use old Samsonite suitcases. They're remarkably tough, and
> come in several colors which help me differentiate pieces of gear (gray
> for the mike cables, red for speaker cables, green for the Hafler, brown
> for the microphones). I agree that they're a lot less conspicuous; also,
> they run $4-6 at St. Vincent de Paul. A few of the 60s-vintage models have
> wheels at one end and fold-out handles at the other.

> Inside, I pad them with egg-crate foam (bought at Wal-Mart as mattress
> foam) and pack the fancy boxes right into the suitcase. I usually don't
> use dividers, as the various microphones pack tightly enough by
> themselves. A hunk of free-lance foam serves to wedge the boxes in place
> Oh, and the upper section of the suitcase (behind the cardboard flap) is
> filled with foam too, plus maybe a cable or two..

Yep, I have a bunch of those. First batch came from the WARC store in
Reno, and when folsk saw what I was using, whenever they were about to
toss their old Samsonites, they'd call me and I'd wind up with free
cases for a few more years.

--
hank alrich * secret mountain
audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
"If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"

[Kurt Albershardt]

ScotFraser wrote:

>> Now that you have me thiniking, why not electromagnetic shock absorbers
>> for cars? They could be controlled by a microprocessor. Phase
>> cancellation for bumps..
>
> That's somewhat similar to the Citroen system, which is hydraulic. The car is
> always level, as fluid gets pumped to whichever wheel is lowest, although it's
> not fast enough to even out bumps.

And when you park it, it kneels down on the ground--making it the only
car I can think of which can't be stolen with a tow truck. This is far
more common than you might think, and easily done in broad daylight.

[LeBaron & Alrich]

ScotFraser <scotfraser@aol.com> wrote:

> Also check out the briefcase size Chinese made tool box at Home Depot. I
> think it's $30, has an easily removed tool pallette inside & is aluminum
> skin over luan/ply construction. Won't do well if it takes a lot of hits,
> but for in town transit in your car, it's good enough. Holds about a a
> half dozen Neumann cherry boxes.

That's almost exactly the same as the one from Lowe's, but last tiem I
compared (at the Reno stores) the Lowe's model had a slightly nicer
finish, and in particular, much nicer corner protectors, a bit less
clunky.

And yeah, I don't expect to take 'em into a war zone and have stuff
survive. But I've set up a few of them for grab 'n' go to certain gigs I
do regularly and don't want to have to pack for every damn time. Really
handy.

--
hank alrich * secret mountain
audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
"If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"

[TAPKAE]

"ScotFraser" read this in the National Enquirer :


> Those multiple mic transport cases from SKB are horribly flawed in
> several ways: they're made by SKB,


You know what SKB stands for, right?

****
Keeps
Breaking.



At least in my experience.



-- TAPKAE
http://tapkae.com

"We're the cleanup crew for parties we were too young to attend"
(Kevin Gilbert)

[Marc Heusser]

In article <20030815121312.21660.00001627@mb-m07.aol.com>,
pstamler@aol.com (P Stamler) wrote:

> Like Patric, I use old Samsonite suitcases. They're remarkably tough...

I do not know whether something similar is available in the States but
over her in Europe boxes made to fit standard pallettes are rather
common.
They are made out of polyethylene, can be fitted with covers, and come
in sizes up to 1200x800x800 mm.
Smaller ones you can get with handles and cover, eg 600x800x120 mm.
One of these would make a nice case when fitted with foam inside.
You can attach padlocks to covers.
Plus they do not look expensive.
Almost indestructible in normal use.
They're cheap enough also to store any other hardware you may need like
cables etc in the same boxes.

Also they can be stacked, are modular (ie two smaller sizes can be
stacked on the next bigger size etc).

One company that does them is Georg Utz over here.

HTH

Marc

--
Marc Heusser - Zurich, Switzerland
Coaching - Consulting - Counselling - Psychotherapy
http://www.heusser.com
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[Scott Dorsey]

I made a big lauan box, and put a few dividers into it. Then I keep the
microphones in their own padded bags, put them in, and then put foam on
top to keep everything stable when it gets on the plane.

I keep the Beyer ribbons in their original foam-filled boxes, and I keep
the RCA ribbons in individually made lauan shipping packages with foam
inserts.

I keep the Josephson and B&K stuff in my attache case as carry-on.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

John L Rice <Drummer@ImJohn.com> wrote:
>I've never heard of this. How would shorting the terminals affect the cone
>movement at all? Is there a concern about static charges or stray magnetic
>fields modulating the cone or ???

Try it and see! The speaker is acting like a microphone... you change the
load on the mike, and it changes the damping.

Try pushing on the cone with the input open and then shorted... feels
very different.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Jerry Steiger]

"Chris Hornbeck" <guyville@removethisaristotle.net> wrote in message
news:vvtpjvcho3thqou91dfp0d1d7q2hdnirkg@4ax.com...
Snip
> >Now that you have me thinking, why not electromagnetic shock absorbers
> >for cars? They could be controlled by a microprocessor. Phase
> >cancellation for bumps..
>
> It'd take some big motors, but could be done. Probably has
> been, somewhere somewhen.

People (well, actually, electrical and mechanical engineers) have been
working on this for quite a while. As you noted, it takes a lot of power and
expensive hardware. Closest you can get to it right now is
electromagnetically controlled damping in your shock absorbers. Changes the
viscosity in milliseconds. It's available on the Cadillac XLR.


Jerry Steiger

[LeBaron & Alrich]

Jerry Steiger <gwsteiger@comcast.net> wrote:

> It's available on the Cadillac XLR.

How's that compare with the Neutrik and Switchcraft XLR's?

--
ha

[John L Rice]

"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
news:bhli3h$1t0$1@panix2.panix.com...
> John L Rice <Drummer@ImJohn.com> wrote:
> >I've never heard of this. How would shorting the terminals affect the
cone
> >movement at all? Is there a concern about static charges or stray
magnetic
> >fields modulating the cone or ???
>
> Try it and see! The speaker is acting like a microphone... you change the
> load on the mike, and it changes the damping.
>
> Try pushing on the cone with the input open and then shorted... feels
> very different.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Thanks Scott, I'll give that a try. I like science experiments!

John L Rice
Drummer@ImJohn.com

[AT]

try it and you will notice how stiff the cone becomes.

i think it was either ev or jbl that does it. i have seen it.


"John L Rice" <Drummer@ImJohn.com> wrote in message
news:vjoimcir5bt43c@corp.supernews.com...
> I've never heard of this. How would shorting the terminals affect the cone
> movement at all? Is there a concern about static charges or stray magnetic
> fields modulating the cone or ???
>
> John L Rice
> Drummer@ImJohn.com
>
> " AT" <spamnenot@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:c8V_a.9971$rh1.8830@fe04.atl2.webusenet.com.. .
> > it is interesting, as some speaker companies suggest that the output of
> > their speakers be shorted for transportation.doing it does hold the cone
> > very tight.
> >
> > i wonder if this makes any difference with mics.
> >
> > hummm......
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Rob Reedijk]

TAPKAE <e@****.com> wrote:

> You know what SKB stands for, right?

> ****
> Keeps
> Breaking.

No. It stands for Something Kould Break.

Actually, I use SKB rack cases all the time and I do okay. But that's
trunk of the car, backseat of the cab kind of duty.

I wouldn't stack them in a truck, or check them in at the airport.

Rob R.

[ScotFraser]

<< > You know what SKB stands for, right? >>


Some Krapulous Bull****?

Stupid Krappy Boxes?


Scott Fraser

[Novamusic]

sjp@soca.com (hollywood_steve) wrote in message news:<55147cb4.0308141249.1ad088e5@posting.google.com>...
> Now that my location recording work is becoming more frequent, little
> logistical things are becoming more important, like transporting
> microphones. For the simple stereo gigs, nothing could be easier than
> packing up the single wood box containing the stereo pair. But what
> about those gigs that require 6 or 8 microphones (or more)? Its swell
> that every mic that sells for more than $299 these days seems to come
> in a nice wood box, or at least a hard plastic case, but how do you
> move 8 wood boxes around? I thought about buying a suitcase-sized

You said the right word, stop there. Suitcases. Hardshell old-school
type. A good-sized one should hold 6-8 mics in their original cases.
You can foam-line the suitcase, too. Probably $5-$10 at Goodwill or
similar.

Mikey

[John L Rice]

"ScotFraser" <scotfraser@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030821213936.14491.00001997@mb-m04.aol.com...
> << > You know what SKB stands for, right? >>
>
>
> Some Krapulous Bull****?
>
> Stupid Krappy Boxes?
>
>
> Scott Fraser

Synthetic Kardboard Boxes?

[Rich Wilner]

sjp@soca.com (hollywood_steve) wrote in message news:<55147cb4.0308141249.1ad088e5@posting.google.com>...
> Now that my location recording work is becoming more frequent, little
> logistical things are becoming more important, like transporting
> microphones. For the simple stereo gigs, nothing could be easier than
> packing up the single wood box containing the stereo pair. But what
> about those gigs that require 6 or 8 microphones (or more)? Its swell
> that every mic that sells for more than $299 these days seems to come
> in a nice wood box, or at least a hard plastic case, but how do you
> move 8 wood boxes around? I thought about buying a suitcase-sized
> Pelican case and arranging the interior foam to accept all of the wood
> mic boxes. The obvious downside to that idea is that you have created
> a thief's fantasy: all of your most expensive toys in one easily
> removed package. (but that's obvious; anything that makes it easy for
> me to transport gear to/from gigs will make it just as easy for a
> thief to remove when your eyes turn away for a second.) And a quick
> sketch determined that just 8 mic cases would require at least two of
> the $300 size Pelican cases. There's gotta be a better way........
>
> Those multiple mic transport cases from SKB are horribly flawed in
> several ways: they're made by SKB, they assume every mic you own is
> shaped like an SM58 and they don't provide much space for all of the
> accessories that are in the wood boxes; clips, adapters, foam, etc.
>
> To anybody who regularly takes their good mics out on location
> recording jobs, how do you transport large quantities of expensive
> mics (more than 3 or 4)?
>
> thanks.
>
> steve
> lex125@pacbell.net
> www.lexington125.com

go to a gun show in your area and check out their offerings for cases.
they have a variety of hard- and soft-shell padded cases well suited
to carrying mics. the SDCs and dynamics fit well into magazine slots,
and the LDCs fit well into pistol compartments. There will be many
configurations, most have some type of locking mechanism built in, and
they're cheaper than pelican offerings.

[Rich Wilner]

Rob Adelman <radelman@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Q2__a.93248$o27.2065049@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> Harvey Gerst wrote:
> > "John L Rice" <Drummer@ImJohn.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I've never heard of this. How would shorting the terminals affect the cone
> >>movement at all? Is there a concern about static charges or stray magnetic
> >>fields modulating the cone or ???
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Some of the induced cone motion would be damped by the back EMF, created by the
> > voice coil.
> >
>
> The stuff you learn here! Simple things that you just would have never
> thought of :)
>
> Now that you have me thiniking, why not electromagnetic shock absorbers
> for cars? They could be controlled by a microprocessor. Phase
> cancellation for bumps..

I've heard rumors of bose working on this...

[Justin Ulysses Morse]

LeBaron & Alrich <walkinay@thegrid.net> wrote:

> Jerry Steiger <gwsteiger@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > It's available on the Cadillac XLR.
>
> How's that compare with the Neutrik and Switchcraft XLR's?

More cargo space, poor fuel efficiency, less reliable, and more prone
to rear-end collisions and theft. Also less compatible with mating
connectors.

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