Windows XP SP1 vs. Windows 2000 SP4

[Oistein]

I'm sure this subject has been discussed before. I'm just curious if there's
any reason to use Windows 2000 over XP anymore. Everything seems to be
directed towards XP now. Toutorials, drivers and whatnot. I guess I'm asking
if absolutely everything that says XP works 100% with Windows 2000 too. Any
give and take factors I should be aware of in this evaluation?

[area242]

"Oistein" <oisteine@broadpark.no> wrote in message
news:3f3d4517$1@news.broadpark.no...
> I'm sure this subject has been discussed before. I'm just curious if
there's
> any reason to use Windows 2000 over XP anymore. Everything seems to be
> directed towards XP now. Toutorials, drivers and whatnot. I guess I'm
asking
> if absolutely everything that says XP works 100% with Windows 2000 too.
Any
> give and take factors I should be aware of in this evaluation?

I can only share my experience with you...and I switched from Win2K Pro to
XP Pro and love it! It seems to be a little more stable and it
starts-up/shuts-down faster. I haven't had any combatibility issues at
all...but didn't have any with Win2K either. So, between the fewer crashes
and a little smoother performance, I reccommend going with XP.

[William Sommerwerck]

XP is no doubt superior in some ways to 2000 Pro, but I don't like the
interface. It's much, much too intrusive. It constantly assumes it knows what
you're doing and interferes, or it prompts you with a bunch of options even when
you're doing what you want to do. I have no regrets about choosing 2000 Pro.

[John L Rice]

Hi William,

If you ever get around to using XP the following site should be helpful in
taming XP's interface :
http://www.musicxp.net/

Best of luck!

John L Rice
Drummer@ImJohn.com

"William Sommerwerck" <williams@nwlink.com> wrote in message
news:vjr0cd46qis9ea@corp.supernews.com...
> XP is no doubt superior in some ways to 2000 Pro, but I don't like the
> interface. It's much, much too intrusive. It constantly assumes it knows
what
> you're doing and interferes, or it prompts you with a bunch of options
even when
> you're doing what you want to do. I have no regrets about choosing 2000
Pro.
>

[Laurence Payne]

>XP is no doubt superior in some ways to 2000 Pro, but I don't like the
>interface. It's much, much too intrusive. It constantly assumes it knows what
>you're doing and interferes, or it prompts you with a bunch of options even when
>you're doing what you want to do. I have no regrets about choosing 2000 Pro.

It's not hard to turn most of that off.

[Denny Meeker]

True enough. Go to your local computer book shop and look for a book called
Windows XP Annoyances, published by O'Reilly. There are MANY suggestions
(and implemention instructions) for taming XP. And, the toad on the cover
is way cool.


"Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dkgsjv4kbu0bl93r2urol9ob2e40qojphq@4ax.com...
> >XP is no doubt superior in some ways to 2000 Pro, but I don't like the
> >interface. It's much, much too intrusive. It constantly assumes it knows
what
> >you're doing and interferes, or it prompts you with a bunch of options
even when
> >you're doing what you want to do. I have no regrets about choosing 2000
Pro.
>
> It's not hard to turn most of that off.

[William Sommerwerck]

Denny Meeker wrote...

> Go to your local computer book shop and look for "Windows
> XP Annoyances", published by O'Reilly. There are MANY
> suggestions (and implemention instructions) for taming XP.

Thanks for the suggestion.


> And, the toad on the cover is way cool.

I assume this is a reference to Shakespeare. The only O'Reilly animal reference
I got without help was the flying squirrel on their Palm Pilot books.


>> XP is no doubt superior in some ways to 2000 Pro, but I don't like the
>> interface. It's much, much too intrusive. It constantly assumes it knows
>> what you're doing and interferes, or it prompts you with a bunch of
>> options, even when you're doing what you want to do.

[Denny Meeker]

Other information about the book: author - David A. Karp
ISBN - 0-596-00416-8

The O'Reilly books on various computer-related topics are illustrated on the
front cover with a picture of an animal, some relatively common, some
exotic, depending on your perspective, I guess. How they picked the animals
is anybody's guess. The animal on the cover of Windows XP Annoyances is the
Surinam Toad, aka Pipa Pipa, that lives its entire life cycle in the muddy
rivers of South America.

"William Sommerwerck" <williams@nwlink.com> wrote in message
news:vjtjok18th3h44@corp.supernews.com...
> Denny Meeker wrote...
>
> > Go to your local computer book shop and look for "Windows
> > XP Annoyances", published by O'Reilly. There are MANY
> > suggestions (and implemention instructions) for taming XP.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.
>
>
> > And, the toad on the cover is way cool.
>
> I assume this is a reference to Shakespeare. The only O'Reilly animal
reference
> I got without help was the flying squirrel on their Palm Pilot books.
>
>
> >> XP is no doubt superior in some ways to 2000 Pro, but I don't like the
> >> interface. It's much, much too intrusive. It constantly assumes it
knows
> >> what you're doing and interferes, or it prompts you with a bunch of
> >> options, even when you're doing what you want to do.
>

[Geoff Wood]

"Oistein" <oisteine@broadpark.no> wrote in message
news:3f3d4517$1@news.broadpark.no...
> I'm sure this subject has been discussed before. I'm just curious if
there's
> any reason to use Windows 2000 over XP anymore.

No. Never was ...

geoff

[Geoff Wood]

"William Sommerwerck" <williams@nwlink.com> wrote in message
news:vjr0cd46qis9ea@corp.supernews.com...
> XP is no doubt superior in some ways to 2000 Pro, but I don't like the
> interface. It's much, much too intrusive. It constantly assumes it knows
what
> you're doing and interferes, or it prompts you with a bunch of options
even when
> you're doing what you want to do. I have no regrets about choosing 2000
Pro.


Go to display options and choose desktop theme as 'Classic Windows'. Then
you won't be lost with all the cluttery warm feely rubbish.

geoff

[William Sommerwerck]

I tried that when XP first came out and it had no particular effect.

> Go to display options and choose desktop theme as 'Classic Windows'.
> Then you won't be lost with all the cluttery warm feely rubbish.

[Mike Rivers]

In article <LmW%a.27884$vo2.22383@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink .net> dmeeker@mindspring.com writes:

> The animal on the cover of Windows XP Annoyances is the
> Surinam Toad, aka Pipa Pipa, that lives its entire life cycle in the muddy
> rivers of South America.

That sounds appropriate for something relating to Windows. Does anyone
publish a series of Windows books with various mushrooms on the cover?



--
I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)

[Rick Knepper]

My XP displays look just like my 98 displays - Teal Green and crammed packed
with Icons. <g>

In addition to choosing the "Classic Windows" look, you still have to
manually set the colors you want and manually move the desired icons onto
the desktop including My Computer, Network Places, Printers, etc.
--
Rick Knepper
MicroComputer Support Services
Knepper Audio
Ft. Worth, TX
817-239-9632
413-215-1267 Fax
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http://www.rknepper.com

"William Sommerwerck" <williams@nwlink.com> wrote in message
news:vk19o1atlvvg6f@corp.supernews.com...
> I tried that when XP first came out and it had no particular effect.
>
> > Go to display options and choose desktop theme as 'Classic Windows'.
> > Then you won't be lost with all the cluttery warm feely rubbish.

[Arny Krueger]

"Rick Knepper" <rick@rknepper.com> wrote in message
news:ZO40b.2381$cX.386@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com

> My XP displays look just like my 98 displays - Teal Green and crammed
> packed with Icons. <g>

> In addition to choosing the "Classic Windows" look, you still have to
> manually set the colors you want and manually move the desired icons
> onto the desktop including My Computer, Network Places, Printers, etc.

In case someone actually wants to do it...

My Documents and My Computer will show up on the desktop if you right click
their icons in the Start Menu and click Show On Desktop.

Printers requires right-clicking in Printers and Faxes in Control panel and
selecting Create Shortcut (on desktop).

Network Neighborhood is a bit tougher. My Computer, then My Network Places,
then View Workgroup Computers, then up folder, then right click Workgroup
and create shortcut (on desktop).

[Justin Ulysses Morse]

The one good reason I can think of for running Windows 2000 is if you
have more computers than Windows licenses. W2K lets you break the law,
XP does not.

XP will supposedly quit working if it goes a certain amount of time
without connecting to Microsoft to confirm your registration. Which
can be a problem if you don't connect your computer to the internet.
You know, like if it's a special-purpose machine in a recording studio
or on the Space Shuttle.

ulysses


In article <3f3d4517$1@news.broadpark.no>, Oistein
<oisteine@broadpark.no> wrote:

> I'm sure this subject has been discussed before. I'm just curious if there's
> any reason to use Windows 2000 over XP anymore. Everything seems to be
> directed towards XP now. Toutorials, drivers and whatnot. I guess I'm asking
> if absolutely everything that says XP works 100% with Windows 2000 too. Any
> give and take factors I should be aware of in this evaluation?

[Geoff Wood]

"Justin Ulysses Morse" <ulysses@rollmusic.com> wrote in message
news:180820031825120044%ulysses@rollmusic.com...
> The one good reason I can think of for running Windows 2000 is if you
> have more computers than Windows licenses. W2K lets you break the law,
> XP does not.
>
> XP will supposedly quit working if it goes a certain amount of time
> without connecting to Microsoft to confirm your registration. Which
> can be a problem if you don't connect your computer to the internet.
> You know, like if it's a special-purpose machine in a recording studio
> or on the Space Shuttle.
>
>

Well, you can apply a crack ( a quick download and a double-click), which is
the same degree of against-the-lawedness as multiple W2K installs....


geoff

[flint]

> > The one good reason I can think of for running Windows 2000 is if you
> > have more computers than Windows licenses. W2K lets you break the law,
> > XP does not.
> >
> > XP will supposedly quit working if it goes a certain amount of time
> > without connecting to Microsoft to confirm your registration. Which
> > can be a problem if you don't connect your computer to the internet.
> > You know, like if it's a special-purpose machine in a recording studio
> > or on the Space Shuttle.
> >
> >
>
> Well, you can apply a crack ( a quick download and a double-click), which
is
> the same degree of against-the-lawedness as multiple W2K installs....
>
>
> geoff
>

Or, you could just obey the law.

[Chris Smalt]

Rick wrote:

> My XP displays look just like my 98 displays - Teal Green and crammed packed
> with Icons. <g>


Out of curiosity, does XP remember window position and size for each
window? The only musician I know with a PC is still on 98, and he finds
himself constantly reshuffling windows to display what he realy wants to
see. Also, if you do a search in 98, the window doesn't resize to show
everything. How is that on XP? And will it display folder sizes in a
list view?

Thanks


Chris

[John L Rice]

You don't need an internet connection to register XP. You can just call the
phone number on the screen and then follow the automated voice prompts and
say out loud the code on your disc packaging. Then the robot lady tells you
the numbers to enter into the prompt on your screen and everything works.
Very easy and painless. If you re-register it to many times you get sent to
a big mean man who asks you 'what the **** is up?' and you tell him you keep
re-installing it over and over again on the same machine because trying to
get everything installed and working properly together is as easy as
sticking one hand up yer ass and tying a dental floss bow around a turd. He
then says 'you sound cute, would you like to attend tonight's opera with me
as my special guest' and you say no thank you and he says 'here's your
registration code sweetie, don't be a stranger'

I think it's passed my bed time . . . . .

John L Rice
Drummer@ImJohn.com



"Justin Ulysses Morse" <ulysses@rollmusic.com> wrote in message
news:180820031825120044%ulysses@rollmusic.com...
> The one good reason I can think of for running Windows 2000 is if you
> have more computers than Windows licenses. W2K lets you break the law,
> XP does not.
>
> XP will supposedly quit working if it goes a certain amount of time
> without connecting to Microsoft to confirm your registration. Which
> can be a problem if you don't connect your computer to the internet.
> You know, like if it's a special-purpose machine in a recording studio
> or on the Space Shuttle.
>
> ulysses
>
>
> In article <3f3d4517$1@news.broadpark.no>, Oistein
> <oisteine@broadpark.no> wrote:
>
> > I'm sure this subject has been discussed before. I'm just curious if
there's
> > any reason to use Windows 2000 over XP anymore. Everything seems to be
> > directed towards XP now. Toutorials, drivers and whatnot. I guess I'm
asking
> > if absolutely everything that says XP works 100% with Windows 2000 too.
Any
> > give and take factors I should be aware of in this evaluation?

[Mike Rivers]

In article <180820031825120044%ulysses@rollmusic.com> ulysses@rollmusic.com writes:

> XP will supposedly quit working if it goes a certain amount of time
> without connecting to Microsoft to confirm your registration. Which
> can be a problem if you don't connect your computer to the internet.

You can get a registration code by phone. But if you try to register
too many computers on the same copy of Windows, you'll have some
'splainin' to do.




--
I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)

[Arny Krueger]

"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
news:znr1061253709k@trad
> In article <180820031825120044%ulysses@rollmusic.com>
> ulysses@rollmusic.com writes:
>
>> XP will supposedly quit working if it goes a certain amount of time
>> without connecting to Microsoft to confirm your registration. Which
>> can be a problem if you don't connect your computer to the internet.
>
> You can get a registration code by phone. But if you try to register
> too many computers on the same copy of Windows, you'll have some
> 'splainin' to do.

The classic explanation is a recent string of upgrades and/or repairs.

Given how sensitive XP is to seemingly trivial hardware changes, they have
to honor this.

[John D.]

"Oistein" <oisteine@broadpark.no> wrote in message news:<3f3d4517$1@news.broadpark.no>...
> I'm sure this subject has been discussed before. I'm just curious if there's
> any reason to use Windows 2000 over XP anymore. Everything seems to be
> directed towards XP now. Toutorials, drivers and whatnot. I guess I'm asking
> if absolutely everything that says XP works 100% with Windows 2000 too. Any
> give and take factors I should be aware of in this evaluation?

It is hard to justify the upgrade cost while switching from
Windows 2000 to XP. It is not worth the money in my opinion.
Win98->XP makes more sense. If you are running Windows 2000 then
skip a generation and upgrade when the next version of windows (post-XP)
comes out.