Behringer MX9000 - personal review

[news.verizon.net]

As was promised, here is my general thoughts on the board:

Comparing the sound of my MX9000 board to my D8b and former Mackie 32. 8
buss; I would have to say that the 2 mackies have a slightly more richer
sound. I did not test these with any spectrum analyzers, nor any paid
advertisers - just my plain raw ears.

However, the MX9000 is well worth the $1400 all inclusive price tag. It is a
great mixer for a studio B, C, or even a studio A; especially in a home
studio setting where you are not renting nor subletting. I can understand
why the price is low; since the labor to do the physical assembling, was
probably done under minimum wage upbringing.

Mx9000 have great features that I like very much, including: Mix B -
separate eq on both A & B, 24 extra inputs, 16buss-outs to eliminate those
repatching scouts. I am also trying to get use to those meterbridge levels;
since they can easily get red like the devil.

Those Germans are slick. Two thumbs up..for a cheaply-priced board with
professional codes.

[Preben Friis]

"news.verizon.net" <vze4wv23@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> As was promised, here is my general thoughts on the board:
>
> Comparing the sound of my MX9000 board to my D8b and former Mackie 32. 8
> buss; I would have to say that the 2 mackies have a slightly more richer
> sound. I did not test these with any spectrum analyzers, nor any paid
> advertisers - just my plain raw ears.

I seriously doubt that you'll be able to detect any "richer" differences
with a spectrum analyser anyway...

> 16buss-outs to eliminate those repatching scouts.

Actually there are 24 buss outs...

/Preben Friis

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"Preben Friis" <noone@technologist.com> wrote in message
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>
> "news.verizon.net" <vze4wv23@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Ibr%a.2502$N37.176@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > As was promised, here is my general thoughts on the board:
> >
> > Comparing the sound of my MX9000 board to my D8b and former Mackie 32. 8
> > buss; I would have to say that the 2 mackies have a slightly more
richer
> > sound. I did not test these with any spectrum analyzers, nor any paid
> > advertisers - just my plain raw ears.
>
> I seriously doubt that you'll be able to detect any "richer" differences
> with a spectrum analyser anyway...
>
> > 16buss-outs to eliminate those repatching scouts.
>
> Actually there are 24 buss outs...

are you referring to using a ..y-cable?
>
> /Preben Friis
>
>

[Mike Rivers]

In article <C0S%a.657$Ck2.434@nwrdny03.gnilink.net> vze4wv23@verizon.net writes:

> > > 16buss-outs to eliminate those repatching scouts.
> >
> > Actually there are 24 buss outs...
>
> are you referring to using a ..y-cable?

I think he's referring to not having to use a Y cable. There are 8
busses, each wired to two, or maybe three (depending on who's correct
here) jacks. This way, you can connect them to a 24-track recorder and
between the bus assignments and record-ready switches, select which
track is recording from which source.

That's kind of old school, though, since today nobody knows what a bus
on a console is for and go to whatever lengths (outboard preamps,
direct outputs, insert sends, or whatever) to bypass one or more
stages of the console.



--
I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)

[news.verizon.net]

Not sure I am following you here: There are 8 stereo busses at the back of
the console; or 16 mono. How can I patch into a 24trk recorder without the
use of a Y-cable? Not that the answer is that relevant, since I won't be
using that much; it's just more for know-how

thanks!

Are you the Mike Rivers from over D8b Headquarters?

"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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>
> In article <C0S%a.657$Ck2.434@nwrdny03.gnilink.net> vze4wv23@verizon.net
writes:
>
> > > > 16buss-outs to eliminate those repatching scouts.
> > >
> > > Actually there are 24 buss outs...
> >
> > are you referring to using a ..y-cable?
>
> I think he's referring to not having to use a Y cable. There are 8
> busses, each wired to two, or maybe three (depending on who's correct
> here) jacks. This way, you can connect them to a 24-track recorder and
> between the bus assignments and record-ready switches, select which
> track is recording from which source.
>
> That's kind of old school, though, since today nobody knows what a bus
> on a console is for and go to whatever lengths (outboard preamps,
> direct outputs, insert sends, or whatever) to bypass one or more
> stages of the console.
>
>
>
> --
> I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)

[Preben Friis]

"news.verizon.net" <vze4wv23@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Not sure I am following you here: There are 8 stereo busses at the back of
> the console; or 16 mono. How can I patch into a 24trk recorder without
the
> use of a Y-cable? Not that the answer is that relevant, since I won't be
> using that much; it's just more for know-how
>
> thanks!

No, there are 8 mono busses that each feeds two or three jacks.
(The spec sheet http://www.behringer-download.de/MX9000/MX9000_B_Specs.pdf
states that it is 24 total, the manual states that it is 16 total)

The way it is supposed to be used, is to connect group 1 with track 1, 9 and
17, connect group 2 with 1, 10, and 18 etc. The track select on the recorder
will then choose wich tracks will be used. It will limit the setup to record
no more than 8 tracks at a time. As Mike Rivers stated, no one uses
subgroups that way. Since the MX9000 is an inline mixer, the normal way to
connect 24 tracks is to connect the direct/tape outs to the recorder, and
not use the groups (or use them for mixdown).

/Preben Friis

[Mike Rivers]

In article <IyZ%a.882$Ck2.645@nwrdny03.gnilink.net> vze4wv23@verizon.net writes:

> Not sure I am following you here: There are 8 stereo busses at the back of
> the console; or 16 mono.

Are you sure? I haven't looked at the block diagram of the mixer. Or
maybe you're looking at two different types of bus. The scheme I was
describing is a way of distributing eight subgroup busses (which come
from the 1-8 bus assign buttons on each channel) to more than 8
inputs. Those are eight mono busses, or if you prefer, four stereo
busses, or a mixture of mono or stereo busses - but only eight
independent audio streams. If they put two (or three) jacks on each
output, you can use those to connect directly to 16 or 24 recorder
inputs. Essentially the Y-cable is built into the console. And just to
confuse you (or impress you with the literature) they're often
numbered 1-16 or 1-24, but 1, 9, and 17 will all carry the same signal
at the same time.

> Are you the Mike Rivers from over D8b Headquarters?

I was working at Mackie from July 2000 through January 2001, but I'm
no longer connected with them other than as an HDR owner.



--
I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)

[news.verizon.net]

Thanks for the explanations Mike & Preben; I guess I wasn't playing with
these stuff from way back in the days when hardware was King. :-)

"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
news:znr1061209149k@trad...
>
> In article <IyZ%a.882$Ck2.645@nwrdny03.gnilink.net> vze4wv23@verizon.net
writes:
>
> > Not sure I am following you here: There are 8 stereo busses at the back
of
> > the console; or 16 mono.
>
> Are you sure? I haven't looked at the block diagram of the mixer. Or
> maybe you're looking at two different types of bus. The scheme I was
> describing is a way of distributing eight subgroup busses (which come
> from the 1-8 bus assign buttons on each channel) to more than 8
> inputs. Those are eight mono busses, or if you prefer, four stereo
> busses, or a mixture of mono or stereo busses - but only eight
> independent audio streams. If they put two (or three) jacks on each
> output, you can use those to connect directly to 16 or 24 recorder
> inputs. Essentially the Y-cable is built into the console. And just to
> confuse you (or impress you with the literature) they're often
> numbered 1-16 or 1-24, but 1, 9, and 17 will all carry the same signal
> at the same time.
>
> > Are you the Mike Rivers from over D8b Headquarters?
>
> I was working at Mackie from July 2000 through January 2001, but I'm
> no longer connected with them other than as an HDR owner.
>
>
>
> --
> I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)