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Frisco
08-19-2003, 10:50 AM
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:58:02 GMT, "Glenn Dowdy"
<glenn.dowdy@nospam.com> wrote:
>> I currently use a Mackie 1604 VLZ-Pro (16 XLR pre's) going into a
>> Fostex 16-track VF16 hard-disk recorder. I use the 1604 for both
>> recording and live. If I do get a new mixer (A&H, etc) I'd use it
>> for recording and only use my 1604 on the road. I really want to
>> upgrade my pre's for recording, since the Mackie pre's are less than
>> wonderful.
>
>Hmmm. The mic pres on the Mackie garner at least 'decent' status on the
>audio groups, except when paired with SM-57s and the like. It's the EQ and
>bus summing that no-one likes.

Yep - I use a handful of 57's and 58's live and in the basement for
just about everything - vox to drums to guitar amps. We use a
Sennheiser for the lead vox and I have an AT kick mic. The mic's are
worth more than the Mackie, so I can't see buying a whole new set of
'em when I'd like a better mixer anyways.

> If you're using a single mixer for live and
>recording now, why not sell the Mackie and buy one really nice multipurpose
>board and some outboard mic pres? How many mics do you use on drums live? In
>the studio? How many tracks do you record at once?
>Glenn D.

16 XLR pre's are what I have and what I like. I traded up from a 1642
with only 12 pre's and I ran out quick at every gig and in the studio.
It's still a pipe dream, but I'll keep an eye out and start shopping
the gear for what I want. If the price is too high I may do just that
and trade up, I have some other gear that could help pay for it too.

Thanx for the advice!

Paul

Glenn Dowdy
08-19-2003, 11:21 AM
"Frisco" <pfran1@netzero.net> wrote in message
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>
> Yep - I use a handful of 57's and 58's live and in the basement for
> just about everything - vox to drums to guitar amps. We use a
> Sennheiser for the lead vox and I have an AT kick mic. The mic's are
> worth more than the Mackie, so I can't see buying a whole new set of
> 'em when I'd like a better mixer anyways.

There are some nice large diaphragm condensors out there for studio vocals
that don't cost much at all: Studio Projects B1, Marshall MXL 57 and 67 are
all under $100 (the 57 is $49 at MF right now).
>
>
> 16 XLR pre's are what I have and what I like. I traded up from a 1642
> with only 12 pre's and I ran out quick at every gig and in the studio.

Well, you certainly know what you want and need, and that's always a big
help.

> It's still a pipe dream, but I'll keep an eye out and start shopping
> the gear for what I want. If the price is too high I may do just that
> and trade up, I have some other gear that could help pay for it too.
>
> Thanx for the advice!
>
Just be careful with it. It's worth about what you paid for it.

Glenn D.

f-mo.
08-20-2003, 10:57 AM
"Glenn Dowdy" <glenn.dowdy@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> There are some nice large diaphragm condensors out there for studio vocals
> that don't cost much at all: Studio Projects B1, Marshall MXL 57 and 67
are
> all under $100 (the 57 is $49 at MF right now).

Also, FWIW, I've had good luck with Oktava MK-219s. They can be had in the
$50 - $70 range, I believe.

From what I understand, the MK-319 uses the exact same capsule but houses it
in a different body. That one goes for around $100.

--Jim.