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I am looking for help in making a microphone extension. I have two good
quality 5-pin XLR cable connectors. I need help & advice about the best
cable to buy and a wiring diagram for how to solder the cable to the
connectors. I would really appreciate any help with this.
Karl
John L Rice
08-27-2003, 08:00 PM
"Karl" <Karl@karl.homechoice.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3f4d1833$1@news1.homechoice.co.uk...
> I am looking for help in making a microphone extension. I have two good
> quality 5-pin XLR cable connectors. I need help & advice about the best
> cable to buy and a wiring diagram for how to solder the cable to the
> connectors. I would really appreciate any help with this.
> Karl
Hi Karl,
I'm curious as to why you are using 5 pin XLR's instead of the standard 3
pin ones. I know 5 pin ones exist, I've just never had the need to use one.
Are you sure that's what you have or really need? And you do have one male
and one female, right?
In no particular order I'd say Belden, Mogami, Canare and Gepco all make
great quality raw audio cable. Do a www.google.com search on any of those
to find out more.
Check out this article on ProCo's site to get you started.
http://www.procosound.com/downloads/guides/htc_mic.pdf
Best of luck!
John L Rice
Drummer@ImJohn.com
David Nobel
08-27-2003, 11:22 PM
"Karl" <Karl@karl.homechoice.co.uk> wrote in message news:<3f4d1833$1@news1.homechoice.co.uk>...
> I am looking for help in making a microphone extension. I have two good
> quality 5-pin XLR cable connectors. I need help & advice about the best
> cable to buy and a wiring diagram for how to solder the cable to the
> connectors. I would really appreciate any help with this.
Karl, a U.S. company called Ramtech is making fabulous, light, thin
cable that blows away a lot of the competition at a very reasonable
cost per foot. Because it is OFC (oxygen free copper), you can use 24
AWG instead of 12. I am using their Flex 2001 for three-wire XLR mic
cables and patch cords.
Check it out here (a distributor/retailer):
http://www.sound-room.com/
Or here (manufacturer):
http://www.ramtech.net/Default.htm
James Boyk
08-27-2003, 11:40 PM
David Nobel wrote: ...Because it is OFC (oxygen free copper), you can use 24 AWG instead of 12.
Please say more about this! Why would one think of 12-ga. for mike cable? Why would using OFC allow using a far smaller gauge?
James Boyk
http://www.performancerecordings.com
John L Rice
08-28-2003, 12:29 AM
"James Boyk" <boyk@caltech.edu> wrote in message
news:bik4lk$70c$1@naig.caltech.edu...
> David Nobel wrote: ...Because it is OFC (oxygen free copper), you can use
24 AWG instead of 12.
>
>
> Please say more about this! Why would one think of 12-ga. for mike cable?
Why would using OFC allow using a far smaller gauge?
>
>
> James Boyk
> http://www.performancerecordings.com
uuuuhhhhmmmmm . . . .maybe it's because all of that nasty air takes up
space. If you made an oxygen free Three Musketeers candy bar it would be
like . . the size of a pack of Rollos or something . . . .
Time for bed . . .
John L Rice
Drummer@ImJohn.com
Preben Friis
08-28-2003, 12:36 AM
"David Nobel" <dnobel@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42329f4f.0308272122.4335d377@posting.google.c om...
> Because it is OFC (oxygen free copper), you can use 24
> AWG instead of 12. I am using their Flex 2001 for three-wire XLR mic
> cables and patch cords.
It's my understanding that all copper used for cables are oxygen free
copper.
/Preben Friis
Graham Hinton
08-28-2003, 04:14 AM
In article <3f4da2f0$0$24675$edfadb0f@dread14.news.tele.dk>,
"Preben Friis" <noone@technologist.com> wrote:
>It's my understanding that all copper used for cables are oxygen free
>copper.
Yes. Try asking for 0.01% oxygen content and see how far you get...
I tried it on some SSL installation engineers noticing that all the cables
had "Solid State Logic Oxygen Free Copper" printed on them (at extra
expense and as if that was different from anybody elses'). I explained that
this was not specified because the studio owner had been using rusty
equipment since the sixties and would not get his vocal sound if it were
oxygen free. They did not realise that I was taking the piss. This is an
occupation hazard when you start believing your own marketing.
Scott Dorsey
08-28-2003, 05:57 AM
Preben Friis <noone@technologist.com> wrote:
>"David Nobel" <dnobel@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:42329f4f.0308272122.4335d377@posting.google.c om...
>
>> Because it is OFC (oxygen free copper), you can use 24
>> AWG instead of 12. I am using their Flex 2001 for three-wire XLR mic
>> cables and patch cords.
>
>It's my understanding that all copper used for cables are oxygen free
>copper.
Not all of it, but most of it these days. It's easier to work with and
gives you better flexibility. Certainly in all of the reasonably well
made mike cables it's the case.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Richard Crowley
08-28-2003, 06:34 AM
"Karl" wrote ...
> I am looking for help in making a microphone extension.
> I have two good quality 5-pin XLR cable connectors. I need
> help & advice about the best cable to buy and a wiring
> diagram for how to solder the cable to the connectors.
> I would really appreciate any help with this.
Interesting thread about cable types.
But I haven't seen anyone pick up on the fact that
Karl said he is using FIVE-pin XLR connectors.
Either he has the wrong connectors, or he is looking
for TWO-PAIR cable? I asked for this clarification in
rec.audio.tech, but Karl has not responded.
Preben Friis
08-28-2003, 07:31 AM
"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:vkrtmg7pu8asb4@corp.supernews.com...
> Interesting thread about cable types.
>
> But I haven't seen anyone pick up on the fact that
> Karl said he is using FIVE-pin XLR connectors.
You miss the posts by John L Rice and Graham Hinton?
/Preben Friis
Richard Crowley
08-28-2003, 07:39 AM
"Preben Friis" wrote...
> You miss the posts by John L Rice and Graham Hinton?
My news server hasn't offered them up to me yet
Usenet isn't an exact science. :-)
Mainlander
08-29-2003, 06:15 AM
In article <bikqn7$kl0$1@panix2.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com says...
> Preben Friis <noone@technologist.com> wrote:
> >"David Nobel" <dnobel@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >news:42329f4f.0308272122.4335d377@posting.google.c om...
> >
> >> Because it is OFC (oxygen free copper), you can use 24
> >> AWG instead of 12. I am using their Flex 2001 for three-wire XLR mic
> >> cables and patch cords.
> >
> >It's my understanding that all copper used for cables are oxygen free
> >copper.
>
> Not all of it, but most of it these days. It's easier to work with and
> gives you better flexibility. Certainly in all of the reasonably well
> made mike cables it's the case.
But the enamelled insulation isn't easier to work with. Damn hard to get
off.
Scott Dorsey
08-29-2003, 08:34 AM
Mainlander <*@*.*> wrote:
>In article <bikqn7$kl0$1@panix2.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com says...
>> Preben Friis <noone@technologist.com> wrote:
>> >"David Nobel" <dnobel@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >news:42329f4f.0308272122.4335d377@posting.google.c om...
>> >
>> >> Because it is OFC (oxygen free copper), you can use 24
>> >> AWG instead of 12. I am using their Flex 2001 for three-wire XLR mic
>> >> cables and patch cords.
>> >
>> >It's my understanding that all copper used for cables are oxygen free
>> >copper.
>>
>> Not all of it, but most of it these days. It's easier to work with and
>> gives you better flexibility. Certainly in all of the reasonably well
>> made mike cables it's the case.
>
>But the enamelled insulation isn't easier to work with. Damn hard to get
>off.
Huh? Most of the OFC cables don't use enamelled insulation.
If your cables do, just dip the ends in toluene. Don't try to scrape the
varnish off; the little nicks will eventually cause the thing to fail.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Twist Turner
08-29-2003, 08:40 AM
It seems to me my AKG C61 has a 5 pin connnector, maybe he's trying to
make a cable for a tube mic, my other tube mic's have at least 5 pins as
well.
http://www.vintagemicsales.com
James Boyk
08-29-2003, 09:17 AM
James Boyk wrote:
> Please say more about this! Why would one think of 12-ga. for mike
> cable? Why would using OFC allow using a far smaller gauge?
I'm still hoping for answers to these questions.
James Boyk
http://www.performancerecordings.com
Richard Crowley
08-29-2003, 08:41 PM
"Twist Turner" wrote ...
> It seems to me my AKG C61 has a 5 pin connnector,
> maybe he's trying to make a cable for a tube mic, my
> other tube mic's have at least 5 pins as well.
In news:rec.audio.tech, the OP said he was making an
extention for a Sony ECM-MS957 stereo mic.
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