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NoSheeples
08-29-2003, 09:38 PM
Ok now that I have heard all the arguments, my only real problem is this.
Who woke up one day after 200 years and decided this was a problem?
That was the real question I had. It does not really matter what your point of
view is. These things are posted all over the south in many court rooms, and I
look at as nothing more then a piece of our nations history. I make the
argument that the only reason the stone is gone is becuase some jerk off group
had a beef with the Judge, or it's just a way to get a Bush, becuase they know
he'e a christian.
I think the judge was wrong to try and stop it, but I also think the ruling had
no leagle basis. That is my opinion.


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty is
a well armed lamb protesting the vote."

Steve Gardner
08-30-2003, 12:00 AM
Lets kill this new thread right now.

"NoSheeples" <n2new@aol.comNsheep> wrote in message
news:20030829233820.24456.00000112@mb-m16.aol.com...
> Ok now that I have heard all the arguments, my only real problem is this.
> Who woke up one day after 200 years and decided this was a problem?
> That was the real question I had. It does not really matter what your
point of
> view is. These things are posted all over the south in many court rooms,
and I
> look at as nothing more then a piece of our nations history. I make the
> argument that the only reason the stone is gone is becuase some jerk off
group
> had a beef with the Judge, or it's just a way to get a Bush, becuase they
know
> he'e a christian.
> I think the judge was wrong to try and stop it, but I also think the
ruling had
> no leagle basis. That is my opinion.
>
>
> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty
is
> a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
>

NoSheeples
08-30-2003, 09:13 AM
>Lets kill this new thread right now.
>

What Mister intelect can't asnwer the question? ;o)

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty is
a well armed lamb protesting the vote."

DaveMohn
09-01-2003, 09:14 AM
Religion, only one mention of God here:
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the
service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to
religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs,
and practices
3 : archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
-----------------------------------------------------------
I don't know who it was that woke up and decided we have a problem with the big
10 or any "religious" artifacts or practices. Whoever it was should have slept
in that day ; - )
Could have been an atheist fanatic, there are fanatics in all "religious"
organizations and I still say atheism could be characterized as a religion (see
definition #4 above).
It's a shame what is happening in our society today, I mean come on, pretty
soon Santa Claus will be absent from
Christmas or should I say "The Holiday Season" geeeesh...

Happy Labor Day.

"...It is better to have a crust of bread, a little soup & some jazz,
than much feasting with country & western..."

JDMdrums
Dave Mohn
http://www.JDMdrums.com

George Lawrence
09-01-2003, 11:35 AM
If atheism could be categorized as a religion quite a few would have started
"atheist churches" and take advantage of the tax exempt status by now. Maybe
they already have for all I know :-)
In practical usage, despite that quite liberal dictionary definition
(dictionaries can be wrong and written with an agenda btw) atheism is the
opposite of religion; with god vs. without god. As we all know fanatics do
not define religions; Fanatics take whatever small part of a scripture or
ideology or cause fits their personal agenda and cause a lot of trouble. I
think we are seeing rabble rousing fanatics on both sides of this issue in
Alabama and everyone will grow tired of it quickly. It was not a serious
challenge to the first amendment.

There will always be this testing of the first amendment. It is an
unbelievably clever wording of a law. It invites the constant examination
and thwarts every attempt at encroachment from either side. There have been
periods in American history where religion is very prevalent in government
and now there is a period where it is being moved back the other way. It
will swing back the other way at some point. I think the cause of this
present shift is the public's lack of trust in religions in general over
the last thirty years. Everything from the 9/11 suicide fanatics, to the
Catholic priest molesters, to Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Baker. to Jim Jones.

The founding fathers were not very interested in making religion a part of
the government. Religion was already established but democracy was not. They
were concerned with forging a new form of government that protected freedom
from tyrants, including religous tyrants from whom they and their immediate
ancestors had only recently escaped.
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"DaveMohn" <jdmdrums@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030901111432.07565.00000266@mb-m27.aol.com...
> Religion, only one mention of God here:
> 1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1)
: the
> service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or
devotion to
> religious faith or observance
> 2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes,
beliefs,
> and practices
> 3 : archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
> 4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> I don't know who it was that woke up and decided we have a problem with
the big
> 10 or any "religious" artifacts or practices. Whoever it was should have
slept
> in that day ; - )
> Could have been an atheist fanatic, there are fanatics in all "religious"
> organizations and I still say atheism could be characterized as a religion
(see
> definition #4 above).
> It's a shame what is happening in our society today, I mean come on,
pretty
> soon Santa Claus will be absent from
> Christmas or should I say "The Holiday Season" geeeesh...
>
> Happy Labor Day.
>
> "...It is better to have a crust of bread, a little soup & some jazz,
> than much feasting with country & western..."
>
> JDMdrums
> Dave Mohn
> http://www.JDMdrums.com

morris
09-01-2003, 02:43 PM
I make the
> argument that the only reason the stone is gone is becuase some jerk off group
> had a beef with the Judge, or it's just a way to get a Bush, becuase they know
> he'e a christian.
> I think the judge was wrong to try and stop it, but I also think the ruling had
> no leagle basis. That is my opinion.
>

(snip snip and more snip)

after literally hundreds of postings telling you why the ruling was
completely legal and the posting of the commandments unconstitutional,
I fail to see how you can say the had no legal basis.

you just don't want to change how and what you believe.

bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net
09-01-2003, 04:12 PM
George Lawrence <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote:
> If atheism could be categorized as a religion quite a few would have started
> "atheist churches" and take advantage of the tax exempt status by now. Maybe
> they already have for all I know :-)

They have. A guy I know did it for crying out loud! There have to
be many more! He thought it was a wonderful tax scam. There are
certain requirements, but they are pretty simple. You have to
have so many meetings a year (no not every week!) And a couple
of other things. But nothing hard to handle. The church of
the swimming elephant may become official yet!

Benj

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