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Yup! Guitar Center in Orlando is proud to present the annual Labor Day
Sale! Plus, we're giving away something for free just before we open the
doors at 8:00AM. For information and directions, call (407) 975-9119.
Guitar Center Orlando
520 North Orlando Ave
Winter Park, FL 32789
(407) 975-9119
Da Parrot-chick
08-31-2003, 10:56 AM
<mgreer1@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Yup! Guitar Center in any city is proud to present the annual Labor Day
> Sale! Plus, we're giving away something for free just before we open the
> doors at 8:00AM. For information and directions, call (407) RIP-OFFS.
>
> Guitar Center Anywhere They're All The Same
This is your first time posting on Usenet, isn't it? The regulars of the
groups you spammed have formed a solid opinion of GC, based on years of
experience.
You probably don't give a damn about your customers or serving them in a
positive manner. You just wanna gets paid. And spamming is a lot cheaper
than reaching out with a real advertising campaign or building customer
loyalty (traits that'll get you fired from GC every time).
I can give away something free before you open too: Don't shop at GC.
BlueM0ZARK
08-31-2003, 12:23 PM
< we're giving away something for free just before we open the doors at 8:00AM
>
fish tacos...
-MIKE-
08-31-2003, 01:25 PM
> Plus, we're giving away something for free just before we open the
> doors at 8:00AM.
>
Little cards that say,
"None of the sh!t in our ads is actually in the store and even if it
was, you're only allowed to buy 1, like the $29 drum overhead mics
we baited you with. And all our sale prices aren't any better than
you would normally pay at a music store that wasn't infested with a
corporate mentality. Oh yeah, would you like to buy a $20 extended
warrantee on that seven dollar mic cable?"
-MIKE-
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Brad Steinberg
08-31-2003, 01:49 PM
Congratulations, Mike. You said it perfectly.
I suggest everyone go to
http://www.guitarcenter.com/feedback/feedback_java.shtml and send a
complaint email to GC's management about this Orlando idiot.
"-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
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> > Plus, we're giving away something for free just before we open the
> > doors at 8:00AM.
> >
>
> Little cards that say,
>
> "None of the sh!t in our ads is actually in the store and even if it
> was, you're only allowed to buy 1, like the $29 drum overhead mics
> we baited you with. And all our sale prices aren't any better than
> you would normally pay at a music store that wasn't infested with a
> corporate mentality. Oh yeah, would you like to buy a $20 extended
> warrantee on that seven dollar mic cable?"
>
>
> -MIKE-
>
> --
> http://mikedrums.com
> mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
> ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
>
Man, I haven't seen so much whining since the Fender thread!
Some of you don't want to shop at GC, that's fine. I've had nothing
but good experiences shopping at the big chain stores like Sam Ash and
Mars. A hell of a lot better experiences than shopping at locally
owned stores. GC and Ash are in business because their owners were a
little bit smarter than everyone else, so don't take it out on them
because of it. Though I'm not crazy about them spamming the
newsgroups, I welcome this new store and hope that they can do
everything that the locally owned stores couldn't do.
Anthony Giampa
08-31-2003, 02:34 PM
I'm sure all the stores do good enough business... imagine what they'd do
with good or better yet GREAT customer service?
I have to admit, though, while my experiences at the local store haven't all
been great, I don't have too hard a time. I actually got a REAL discount one
time, because there was ONE guy on the drum floor, and he was dealing with a
trade-in, and it fricking took 45 minutes (15 minutes PAST closing) to get
to me. That was the worst, but I didn't have anything better to do so that's
why I didn't 'just leave'.
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"Pity makes me strong." -- Conan O'Brien
"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> Man, I haven't seen so much whining since the Fender thread!
>
> Some of you don't want to shop at GC, that's fine. I've had nothing
> but good experiences shopping at the big chain stores like Sam Ash and
> Mars. A hell of a lot better experiences than shopping at locally
> owned stores. GC and Ash are in business because their owners were a
> little bit smarter than everyone else, so don't take it out on them
> because of it. Though I'm not crazy about them spamming the
> newsgroups, I welcome this new store and hope that they can do
> everything that the locally owned stores couldn't do.
Brad Steinberg
08-31-2003, 02:40 PM
new store? who said its new?
"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> Man, I haven't seen so much whining since the Fender thread!
>
> Some of you don't want to shop at GC, that's fine. I've had nothing
> but good experiences shopping at the big chain stores like Sam Ash and
> Mars. A hell of a lot better experiences than shopping at locally
> owned stores. GC and Ash are in business because their owners were a
> little bit smarter than everyone else, so don't take it out on them
> because of it. Though I'm not crazy about them spamming the
> newsgroups, I welcome this new store and hope that they can do
> everything that the locally owned stores couldn't do.
>new store? who said its new?
Has to be relatively new...I haven't heard of it much before this
weekend.
>
>"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
>news:bdm4lv43pa8ibgo59rc05t2k2kv77vi18q@4ax.com...
>> Man, I haven't seen so much whining since the Fender thread!
>>
>> Some of you don't want to shop at GC, that's fine. I've had nothing
>> but good experiences shopping at the big chain stores like Sam Ash and
>> Mars. A hell of a lot better experiences than shopping at locally
>> owned stores. GC and Ash are in business because their owners were a
>> little bit smarter than everyone else, so don't take it out on them
>> because of it. Though I'm not crazy about them spamming the
>> newsgroups, I welcome this new store and hope that they can do
>> everything that the locally owned stores couldn't do.
>
-MIKE-
08-31-2003, 03:19 PM
> Man, I haven't seen so much whining since the Fender thread!
>
> Some of you don't want to shop at GC, that's fine. I've had nothing
> but good experiences shopping at the big chain stores like Sam Ash and
> Mars. A hell of a lot better experiences than shopping at locally
> owned stores. GC and Ash are in business because their owners were a
> little bit smarter than everyone else, so don't take it out on them
> because of it.
Smart = Ruthless? :-) If they get any smarter, they'll end up
like Mars.
> Though I'm not crazy about them spamming the
> newsgroups, I welcome this new store and hope that they can do
> everything that the locally owned stores couldn't do.
This was crossposted, so you're missing a little history on the rmmp
end of things. My parody was linked to a thread we has a while back
about chain stores and their false advertising. How they send post
cards telling you they have $3 mic cords and $19 boom stands. Then
you show up at at 7am, wait in line for an hour, get to checkout and
they are mysteriously "sold-out' of them. Or they suddenly have a
2-per limit that wasn't mentioned on the mailer. And then their
"incredible" and "once a year" prices that are only 2 percent lower
that normal prices or even higher, only to show up again in another
"only time!" sale, 3 weeks later.
And how about the "extended warrantees' that are shorter than the
original manufacturer's?
I'm all better now. It's all good. I love you, man. :-)
-MIKE-
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Robert Schuh
08-31-2003, 04:09 PM
Boom wrote:
> Man, I haven't seen so much whining since the Fender thread!
>
> Some of you don't want to shop at GC, that's fine. I've had nothing
> but good experiences shopping at the big chain stores like Sam Ash and
> Mars. A hell of a lot better experiences than shopping at locally
> owned stores. GC and Ash are in business because their owners were a
> little bit smarter than everyone else, so don't take it out on them
> because of it. Though I'm not crazy about them spamming the
> newsgroups, I welcome this new store and hope that they can do
> everything that the locally owned stores couldn't do.
Go **** yourself. At least have to balls to post your name and your e mail
if you going to talk ****. Take your head out of your ass.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
BlueM0ZARK
08-31-2003, 05:19 PM
Lil' Robbie, the rmmp hate monger, who has posted anonymously and used more
fake names than anyone else in the entire history of usenet says:
< Go **** yourself. At least have to balls to post your name and your e mail
if you going to talk ****. Take your head out of your ass.>
pot...kettle....black....
>Go **** yourself. At least have to balls to post your name and your e mail
>if you going to talk ****. Take your head out of your ass.
Jimmy Miller. Jm7765@aol.com . You got a problem with me, send me an
email and I'll give you my address so you can come over and I can beat
your ass with a baseball bat.
Robert Schuh
08-31-2003, 05:54 PM
Boom wrote:
> >Go **** yourself. At least have to balls to post your name and your e mail
> >if you going to talk ****. Take your head out of your ass.
>
> Jimmy Miller. Jm7765@aol.com . You got a problem with me, send me an
> email and I'll give you my address so you can come over and I can beat
> your ass with a baseball bat.
Even with a baseball bat your sorry little AOL ass would not stand a chance.
Butch up moron.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Robert Schuh
08-31-2003, 05:57 PM
Boom wrote:
> >Go **** yourself. At least have to balls to post your name and your e mail
> >if you going to talk ****. Take your head out of your ass.
>
> Jimmy Miller. Jm7765@aol.com . You got a problem with me, send me an
> email and I'll give you my address so you can come over and I can beat
> your ass with a baseball bat.
BTW Moron,
Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY ****ing
moron has to use AOL?
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
>Even with a baseball bat your sorry little AOL ass would not stand a chance.
>Butch up moron.
Just as I thought. Pussy.
>Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY ****ing
>moron has to use AOL?
Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!
Da Parrot-chick
08-31-2003, 07:34 PM
"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> Man, I haven't seen so much whining since the Fender thread!
>
> Some of you don't want to shop at GC, that's fine. I've had nothing
> but good experiences shopping at the big chain stores like Sam Ash and
> Mars. A hell of a lot better experiences than shopping at locally
> owned stores. GC and Ash are in business because their owners were a
> little bit smarter than everyone else, so don't take it out on them
> because of it. Though I'm not crazy about them spamming the
> newsgroups, I welcome this new store and hope that they can do
> everything that the locally owned stores couldn't do.
You mean like alienate their customer base while taking advantage of those
who do make it through the door by bait & switch, ignorant but opinionated
sales staff, and vanishing store management?
Da Parrot-chick
08-31-2003, 07:35 PM
"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY
****ing
> >moron has to use AOL?
>
> Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
> Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!
There's a long-arse line for that, Jimmy. Stand in line like the rest of
us. You can't cut in. Next time I'm in Phoenix I'm looking up Schuh so I
can see what he has. He talks more smack than a little bit.
>> >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY
>****ing
>> >moron has to use AOL?
>>
>> Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
>> Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!
>
>There's a long-arse line for that, Jimmy. Stand in line like the rest of
>us. You can't cut in. Next time I'm in Phoenix I'm looking up Schuh so I
>can see what he has. He talks more smack than a little bit.
LOL...Hope you videotape it. Who knows? Beating up Robert Schuh
might be next year's Star Wars Kid video!
BTW, I hear what you're saying about GC in your last message. I have
no experience with them, but Sam Ash does the same thing with the $3
cords and $20 boom stands. But I read the part that says "Offer only
valid with $300 purchase or more," and I realize, hey, maybe there's
less to this offer than meets the eye. And we've been fortunate in
Orlando that there's still more qualified people who need jobs than
there is jobs so the sales talent pool isn't quite as depleted as NY
or LA. Getting there, though ;)
Richard
08-31-2003, 07:57 PM
just@sk.me wrote...
>
> "Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
> > >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY
> > >****ing moron has to use AOL?
> >
> > Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
> > Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!
>
> There's a long-arse line for that, Jimmy. Stand in line like the rest of
> us. You can't cut in. Next time I'm in Phoenix I'm looking up Schuh so I
> can see what he has. He talks more smack than a little bit.
Man, I'd forgotten how much fun reading Usenet could be.
--
Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
Da Parrot-chick
08-31-2003, 08:37 PM
"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> >> >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY
> >****ing
> >> >moron has to use AOL?
> >>
> >> Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
> >> Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!
> >
> >There's a long-arse line for that, Jimmy. Stand in line like the rest of
> >us. You can't cut in. Next time I'm in Phoenix I'm looking up Schuh so
I
> >can see what he has. He talks more smack than a little bit.
>
> LOL...Hope you videotape it. Who knows? Beating up Robert Schuh
> might be next year's Star Wars Kid video!
The Star Wars Kid video would be a lot more interesting, and besides it
would last longer too.
> BTW, I hear what you're saying about GC in your last message. I have
> no experience with them, but Sam Ash does the same thing with the $3
> cords and $20 boom stands. But I read the part that says "Offer only
> valid with $300 purchase or more," and I realize, hey, maybe there's
> less to this offer than meets the eye. And we've been fortunate in
> Orlando that there's still more qualified people who need jobs than
> there is jobs so the sales talent pool isn't quite as depleted as NY
> or LA. Getting there, though ;)
From your lips...
bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net
08-31-2003, 08:55 PM
In rec.music.makers.percussion Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
> Man, I haven't seen so much whining since the Fender thread!
> Some of you don't want to shop at GC, that's fine. I've had nothing
> but good experiences shopping at the big chain stores like Sam Ash and
> Mars. A hell of a lot better experiences than shopping at locally
> owned stores. GC and Ash are in business because their owners were a
> little bit smarter than everyone else, so don't take it out on them
> because of it. Though I'm not crazy about them spamming the
> newsgroups, I welcome this new store and hope that they can do
> everything that the locally owned stores couldn't do.
Gosh Boom as usual you are spot on....NOT! When are you going to
put that beatup pre-CBS passive Fender down and use both hands
to remove your head from where the sun don't shine? "Owners a
a bit smarter than everyone else"! Gimme a break! I won't even
answer this. Just do a Google search on "Stores that Suck"
for a detailed description of all the "better shopping experiences"
you've seemed to have missed.
Benj
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bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net
08-31-2003, 09:02 PM
In rec.music.makers.percussion Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:
> Go **** yourself. At least have to balls to post your name and your e mail
> if you going to talk ****. Take your head out of your ass.
Hey Rob,
Want some fun? Tell him you play bass and Fenders Suck.
(He's a "producer" who fires any bass play who plays
anything, but a pre-CBS Fender) Since I know how you
feel about bass guitars in general, you two should get
along famously! (already have a good start...tee hee)
:)
Benj
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>Gosh Boom as usual you are spot on....NOT! When are you going to
>put that beatup pre-CBS passive Fender down and use both hands
>to remove your head from where the sun don't shine?
Better hope I don't. I might use it on you next.
>"Owners a
>a bit smarter than everyone else"! Gimme a break! I won't even
>answer this. Just do a Google search on "Stores that Suck"
>for a detailed description of all the "better shopping experiences"
>you've seemed to have missed.
Hey, just because others have had bad experiences there doesn't mean I
have. But then again, I guess you're everything to everyone, so how
dare I argue?
>Hey Rob,
>Want some fun? Tell him you play bass and Fenders Suck.
>(He's a "producer" who fires any bass play who plays
>anything, but a pre-CBS Fender)
You're an idiot. I never ever said such a thing. Not only did I not
say that, but in that very thread you are "referring to," I said
recorded many tracks using my Guitar Factory basses. So maybe the
next time you want to put words in my mouth, maybe you should take a
little bit of time to go through and seek out the truth. Then once
you have found the truth, go **** yourself.
>Since I know how you
>feel about bass guitars in general, you two should get
>along famously! (already have a good start...tee hee)
>:)
"Tee hee?" Look, it's OK to be a homo if you want, but don't touch my
ass.
nick amoroso
08-31-2003, 09:15 PM
-mike- wrote:
>Smart = Ruthless? :-) If they get any smarter, they'll end up
>like Mars.
one can only hope.
peace,
:nick amoroso:
professional drums and instruction
proud endorser of silver fox drumsticks
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"in your face, peart" ~ my tech
-MIKE-
08-31-2003, 09:26 PM
See, that's the problem. You shouldn't crosspost. You get drummers
and bass players in the same room and it hits the fan. :-)
-MIKE-
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>>Hey Rob,
>>Want some fun? Tell him you play bass and Fenders Suck.
>>(He's a "producer" who fires any bass play who plays
>>anything, but a pre-CBS Fender)
>
> You're an idiot. I never ever said such a thing. Not only did I not
> say that, but in that very thread you are "referring to," I said
> recorded many tracks using my Guitar Factory basses. So maybe the
> next time you want to put words in my mouth, maybe you should take a
> little bit of time to go through and seek out the truth. Then once
> you have found the truth, go **** yourself.
>
>>Since I know how you
>>feel about bass guitars in general, you two should get
>>along famously! (already have a good start...tee hee)
>>:)
>
> "Tee hee?" Look, it's OK to be a homo if you want, but don't touch my
> ass.
There's no better place IMO to be able to check out gear for as long as
you'd like than a GC or Sam Ash. They don't bother you, and generally ask if
you need any help. When I was younger, the mom and pop shops had everything
hanging usually, and if you asked to check out an instrument, you were
usually watched by the owner standing right there while you played. You
certainly didn't feel like you had much time with him right there. With GC
and Sam Ash now, you walk in, and have a run of the place. They have a
decent stock of gear, and if you find something you like, you have the
choice of purchasing it anywhere you'd like. The 45 day return policy is
quite nice too. I wonder if mom and pop shops let you roam free and handle
everything for as long as you'd like these days, I haven't tried in many
years.
Just feel more comfortable at the bigger stores.
Jack
drumdude
09-01-2003, 07:09 AM
Jack
speaking from experience here , the " mom and pop " stores usally can not
afford if someone young comes in and rips down a 2000.00 les paul and starts
wanking on it ..... i have had kids drop custom shop strats thats cost over
2000.00 and just shrug it off ....the big chain stores just blow it off if
something gets damaged while the smaller retailers feel the hit , i had 2
custom shop fenders , a strat hanging directly over a custom shop tele, a
13nyear old kid came in , removed the card from the guitar that simply said
" please ask for help to play this guitar "
had trouble getting the guitar down and dropped it right into the custom
shop tele , bottom line ? over 1200.00 in custom paint work needed to be
done to make both of these guitars right !!!!! thats why small shop owners
stand over you when you come into there stores , i have at leist 1 damaged
guitar every 2 weeks just from someone who drops a guitar , or bangs an
acoustic off another ect ....and there is nothing i can do about it ,you
have to let people look and play your gear or you will never sell it ....
bottom line
"Jack" <Tarkus7no@spamoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:PxB4b.77245$yg.24992680@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et...
> There's no better place IMO to be able to check out gear for as long as
> you'd like than a GC or Sam Ash. They don't bother you, and generally ask
if
> you need any help. When I was younger, the mom and pop shops had
everything
> hanging usually, and if you asked to check out an instrument, you were
> usually watched by the owner standing right there while you played. You
> certainly didn't feel like you had much time with him right there. With GC
> and Sam Ash now, you walk in, and have a run of the place. They have a
> decent stock of gear, and if you find something you like, you have the
> choice of purchasing it anywhere you'd like. The 45 day return policy is
> quite nice too. I wonder if mom and pop shops let you roam free and handle
> everything for as long as you'd like these days, I haven't tried in many
> years.
> Just feel more comfortable at the bigger stores.
>
> Jack
>
>
>i had 2
>custom shop fenders , a strat hanging directly over a custom shop tele, a
>13nyear old kid came in , removed the card from the guitar that simply said
>" please ask for help to play this guitar "
>had trouble getting the guitar down and dropped it right into the custom
>shop tele , bottom line ? over 1200.00 in custom paint work needed to be
>done to make both of these guitars right !!!!!
That's a very ugly story, and I can see why you would be angry over
that. However, is there any reason you hang those guitars in that
fashion? Do you not have room behind the counter for really expensive
guitars? The onus is on you to protect your inventory. I know things
like that are bound to happen sometimes, but displaying your inventory
safely is your responsibility as a dealer. Kids will be kids.
>thats why small shop owners
>stand over you when you come into there stores , i have at leist 1 damaged
>guitar every 2 weeks just from someone who drops a guitar , or bangs an
>acoustic off another ect ....and there is nothing i can do about it ,you
>have to let people look and play your gear or you will never sell it ....
>bottom line
Absolutely, that's true. However, the way stores have them displayed
often contributes to the dings they collect. I've stores hang the
guitars so close together that you can't help but bang one into
another, and I've seen guitars hung to where they're not quite out of
reach but high enough to cause people great difficulty getting them
out of the racks. I feel for you, but if it happens a lot, you have
to start wondering whether it's their fault or yours.
>Robert Schuh
>"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
>intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
>the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
>the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
>- Nietzsche
On the other hand, intimidating the neighbor doesn't necessarily mean
you're destined for greatness. Sometimes you're just a useless
****ing asshole. Like you, for example.
drumdude
09-01-2003, 08:40 AM
they were really " out of reach " with a card that said please ask for help
, he stood on a stool to get to the guitar and dropped it into another one
..(he told me this afterwards) no respect for one persons equipment IMHO and
he was old enough to know , the parents were in the store and just let him
romp .... they have no control over him i guess either ... while our
expensive guitars are persay " out of reach " in most cases , theres always
a 1 person who takes it upon themselves to overcome the hurdle and get that
instrument , i agree with the acoustic problem , we do have less expensive
acoustics stored closer together and for that reason amoung others we are
moving to a larger location in 2 weeks ....
"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> >i had 2
> >custom shop fenders , a strat hanging directly over a custom shop tele, a
> >13nyear old kid came in , removed the card from the guitar that simply
said
> >" please ask for help to play this guitar "
> >had trouble getting the guitar down and dropped it right into the custom
> >shop tele , bottom line ? over 1200.00 in custom paint work needed to be
> >done to make both of these guitars right !!!!!
>
> That's a very ugly story, and I can see why you would be angry over
> that. However, is there any reason you hang those guitars in that
> fashion? Do you not have room behind the counter for really expensive
> guitars? The onus is on you to protect your inventory. I know things
> like that are bound to happen sometimes, but displaying your inventory
> safely is your responsibility as a dealer. Kids will be kids.
>
> >thats why small shop owners
> >stand over you when you come into there stores , i have at leist 1
damaged
> >guitar every 2 weeks just from someone who drops a guitar , or bangs an
> >acoustic off another ect ....and there is nothing i can do about it ,you
> >have to let people look and play your gear or you will never sell it ....
> >bottom line
>
> Absolutely, that's true. However, the way stores have them displayed
> often contributes to the dings they collect. I've stores hang the
> guitars so close together that you can't help but bang one into
> another, and I've seen guitars hung to where they're not quite out of
> reach but high enough to cause people great difficulty getting them
> out of the racks. I feel for you, but if it happens a lot, you have
> to start wondering whether it's their fault or yours.
>they were really " out of reach " with a card that said please ask for help
>, he stood on a stool to get to the guitar and dropped it into another one
>.(he told me this afterwards) no respect for one persons equipment IMHO and
>he was old enough to know , the parents were in the store and just let him
>romp .... they have no control over him i guess either ...
Then you pay some bruiser kid $20 to beat the crap out of him. But
seriously, that definitely sounds like reasonable protection in
displaying them. Too bad the parents couldn't do the right thing.
I'd like to see my kids pull a stunt like that. Of course, I taught
my kids respect for other people's stuff already so hopefully I
wouldn't have that problem.
>while our
>expensive guitars are persay " out of reach " in most cases , theres always
>a 1 person who takes it upon themselves to overcome the hurdle and get that
>instrument , i agree with the acoustic problem , we do have less expensive
>acoustics stored closer together and for that reason amoung others we are
>moving to a larger location in 2 weeks ....
Congratulations. Hope it works out for you.
bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net
09-01-2003, 09:51 AM
In rec.music.makers.percussion Jack <Tarkus7no@spamoptonline.net> wrote:
> There's no better place IMO to be able to check out gear for as long as
> you'd like than a GC or Sam Ash. They don't bother you, and generally ask if
> you need any help. When I was younger, the mom and pop shops had everything
> hanging usually, and if you asked to check out an instrument, you were
> usually watched by the owner standing right there while you played.
> With GC they have a decent stock of gear, and if you find something you
> like, you have the choice of purchasing it anywhere you'd like. The 45
> day return policy is quite nice too.
> Just feel more comfortable at the bigger stores.
I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago. Hey, if I want
to check out high end basses I go to German Village Music Haus
(where I bought my Alembic) or high end drum stuff I go to
Columbus Pro Percussion (where I bought my drumframe). SA/GC
go for teen volume and that per se isn't bad, but I find less
and less there to make me drool.
And even though I've been one of the major whiners about
policy (or lack thereof) at these places, fact is I buy
tons of crap at both of them. Because they are high volume,
they can let demos and slightly damaged things go for a song.
So when those teens drop that relatively expensive instrument
I'm there waiting to scarf it up for pennies. And futhermore,
they cover a wide range of instruments for sale. Point is they
may be a newbie shop, but we are all newbies on things we don't
play yet! Hence they are very useful from that viewpoint as
well.
It would be nice if they had some reasonable management
and my whining and complaining here was never meant to
drive anybody away and make them lose business, but rather
to be a wake-up call to those folks trying (sort of) to run
these places.
Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
well met, you'd better forget that.
Benj
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Richard
09-01-2003, 10:15 AM
bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net wrote...
> Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
> what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
> player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
> well met, you'd better forget that.
One of the last times John Scofield was in town (NYC), he went into
the Sam Ash on 48th Street to get a new Digitech Whammy thing. He
couldn't get anyone in SA to give him to time of day, so he walked
across the street to one of the smaller shops (48th Street Custom
Guitars) and bought one.
There are some advanced players who don't live in musical
metropolises like NYC who probably do alright at the local SA/GC.
"Big fish, small pond" syndrome.
--
Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
>I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
>high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
>instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
>schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
>rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.
Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
world seem to adjust just fine to them.
>Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
>what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
>player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
>well met, you'd better forget that.
This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
complete ****ing dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
now I would like to cordially invite you to go **** yourself.
-MIKE-
09-01-2003, 10:52 AM
> Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
> what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
> player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
> well met, you'd better forget that.
>
> Benj
I was waiting for a shipment heads straight from Evans and they
didn't show. I had a session the next day and Forks was closing
before I could get there. So, I called Sam Ash to see what they had
in stock. We're talking drum heads, here. Something of which they
should have dozens of sets. Not a single full set of heads in any
line. Then I get the old, "we can order...." :-)
I don't know what it's like for bass/guitar department, but this is
not a music store that cares about the advanced players. It would
be like them not having enough strings for your bass, or telling you
to just mix and match brands/types.
-MIKE-
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-MIKE-
09-01-2003, 11:02 AM
I feel for you, Mark. I was friends with the owner of the local
mom-n-pop, where I used to live. One day I tuned up one of the
out-of-the-box drum kits he had sitting on the floor for months.
The thing sold a few days later. Next thing I know, he asks me to
come in and tune them all. He said he's give me cost+shipping on
anything I ever bought, if I would just come in an tune the drums,
now and then. I told him I would just teach his drum guy, but he
was quitting, soon.
He didn't have jack squat in stock, and even less in high end gear,
so it didn't do much for me, drum-wise, save one lucky-find Zildjian
A Custom Ride that was perfect for me. I *did* get a ton of audio
gear with that discount, though. :-)
It's tough for the little guy to compete when he can't stock dozens
of kits. It's even tougher when the big chains get better dealer
cost, and sell cheapo kits at a loss to get bodies in the door, for
cheaper than the mom-n-pop stores pay for them.
-MIKE-
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---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
> Jack
> speaking from experience here , the " mom and pop " stores usally can not
> afford if someone young comes in and rips down a 2000.00 les paul and
> starts wanking on it ..... i have had kids drop custom shop strats thats
> cost over 2000.00 and just shrug it off ....the big chain stores just blow
> it off if something gets damaged while the smaller retailers feel the hit
> , i had 2 custom shop fenders , a strat hanging directly over a custom
> shop tele, a 13nyear old kid came in , removed the card from the guitar
> that simply said " please ask for help to play this guitar " had trouble
> getting the guitar down and dropped it right into the custom shop tele ,
> bottom line ? over 1200.00 in custom paint work needed to be done to make
> both of these guitars right !!!!! thats why small shop owners stand over
> you when you come into there stores , i have at leist 1 damaged guitar
> every 2 weeks just from someone who drops a guitar , or bangs an acoustic
> off another ect ....and there is nothing i can do about it ,you have to
> let people look and play your gear or you will never sell it .... bottom
> line
drumdude
09-01-2003, 11:18 AM
I do not consider myself a mom and pop store , we carry over 350 guitars in
stock , dealers for most major brand guitars , offer service on everything
we sell , are an authorized fender repair facility , carry 7 professional
drum lines , in the top 5 in gretsch (usa)in the country , have over 300
cymbals in stock ....and usally can match or beat any catalog price ....
with just 2 locations
so while we are not the " chain store " we are somewhere in the middle of
line somewhere i guess
but we feel the muscle from SA/GC all the time : )
"-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
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> > Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
> > what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
> > player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
> > well met, you'd better forget that.
> >
> > Benj
>
>
>
> I was waiting for a shipment heads straight from Evans and they
> didn't show. I had a session the next day and Forks was closing
> before I could get there. So, I called Sam Ash to see what they had
> in stock. We're talking drum heads, here. Something of which they
> should have dozens of sets. Not a single full set of heads in any
> line. Then I get the old, "we can order...." :-)
>
> I don't know what it's like for bass/guitar department, but this is
> not a music store that cares about the advanced players. It would
> be like them not having enough strings for your bass, or telling you
> to just mix and match brands/types.
>
>
> -MIKE-
>
> --
> http://mikedrums.com
> mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
> ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
>
-MIKE-
09-01-2003, 11:40 AM
"drumdude" <pa.drumdude@verizon.net> wrote:
> I do not consider myself a mom and pop store , we carry over 350 guitars
> in stock , dealers for most major brand guitars , offer service on
> everything we sell , are an authorized fender repair facility , carry 7
> professional drum lines , in the top 5 in gretsch (usa)in the country ,
> have over 300 cymbals in stock ....and usally can match or beat any
> catalog price .... with just 2 locations so while we are not the " chain
> store " we are somewhere in the middle of line somewhere i guess but we
> feel the muscle from SA/GC all the time : )
>
So what you're saying is, you're a
"mom-n-pop-n-brother-n-sister-n-aunt-n-uncle" store.
-MIKE-
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drumdude
09-01-2003, 11:47 AM
lmao
ahhhh yeah i guess so Mike
"-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
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> "drumdude" <pa.drumdude@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I do not consider myself a mom and pop store , we carry over 350 guitars
> > in stock , dealers for most major brand guitars , offer service on
> > everything we sell , are an authorized fender repair facility , carry 7
> > professional drum lines , in the top 5 in gretsch (usa)in the country ,
> > have over 300 cymbals in stock ....and usally can match or beat any
> > catalog price .... with just 2 locations so while we are not the " chain
> > store " we are somewhere in the middle of line somewhere i guess but we
> > feel the muscle from SA/GC all the time : )
> >
>
>
> So what you're saying is, you're a
> "mom-n-pop-n-brother-n-sister-n-aunt-n-uncle" store.
>
>
> -MIKE-
>
> --
> http://mikedrums.com
> mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
> ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
>
Robert Schuh
09-01-2003, 12:39 PM
bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net wrote:
> In rec.music.makers.percussion Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:
>
> > Go **** yourself. At least have to balls to post your name and your e mail
> > if you going to talk ****. Take your head out of your ass.
>
> Hey Rob,
> Want some fun? Tell him you play bass and Fenders Suck.
> (He's a "producer" who fires any bass play who plays
> anything, but a pre-CBS Fender) Since I know how you
> feel about bass guitars in general, you two should get
> along famously! (already have a good start...tee hee)
> :)
>
> Benj
>
> --
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He is a "producer?" LOLL! What a ****ing moron. He really must be big time
living in red neck central FL. There was only 1 guy who made the pre CBS bass
valuable. He died in 1987.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Robert Schuh
09-01-2003, 12:40 PM
Boom wrote:
> >Hey Rob,
> >Want some fun? Tell him you play bass and Fenders Suck.
> >(He's a "producer" who fires any bass play who plays
> >anything, but a pre-CBS Fender)
>
> You're an idiot. I never ever said such a thing. Not only did I not
> say that, but in that very thread you are "referring to," I said
> recorded many tracks using my Guitar Factory basses. So maybe the
> next time you want to put words in my mouth, maybe you should take a
> little bit of time to go through and seek out the truth. Then once
> you have found the truth, go **** yourself.
>
> >Since I know how you
> >feel about bass guitars in general, you two should get
> >along famously! (already have a good start...tee hee)
> >:)
>
> "Tee hee?" Look, it's OK to be a homo if you want, but don't touch my
> ass.
How did I know that this pussy was also a little homophobic prick? How old
are you Spanky?
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Robert Schuh
09-01-2003, 12:42 PM
Boom wrote:
> >Gosh Boom as usual you are spot on....NOT! When are you going to
> >put that beatup pre-CBS passive Fender down and use both hands
> >to remove your head from where the sun don't shine?
>
> Better hope I don't. I might use it on you next.
>
> >"Owners a
> >a bit smarter than everyone else"! Gimme a break! I won't even
> >answer this. Just do a Google search on "Stores that Suck"
> >for a detailed description of all the "better shopping experiences"
> >you've seemed to have missed.
>
> Hey, just because others have had bad experiences there doesn't mean I
> have. But then again, I guess you're everything to everyone, so how
> dare I argue?
Why do you keep talking **** like you are some kind of tough guy? I have $
here that says you are some teenage redneck who has never been in a real
fight. You need to butch up a bit and tell us who you are. I am an open
book asshole. You can find my address anywhere on the Internet. You can't
even post a real name.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Robert Schuh
09-01-2003, 12:44 PM
Boom wrote:
> >Robert Schuh
> >"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> >intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> >the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> >the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> >- Nietzsche
>
> On the other hand, intimidating the neighbor doesn't necessarily mean
> you're destined for greatness. Sometimes you're just a useless
> ****ing asshole. Like you, for example.
Grow up little boy. Typical homophobic AOL moron. Did you go to school in
Central FL too? LOLL
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Robert Schuh
09-01-2003, 12:47 PM
Boom wrote:
> >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
> >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
> >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
> >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
> >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.
>
> Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
> Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
> world seem to adjust just fine to them.
>
> >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
> >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
> >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
> >well met, you'd better forget that.
>
> This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
> there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
> perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
> sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
> their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
> make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
>
> BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
> complete ****ing dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
> now I would like to cordially invite you to go **** yourself.
Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician? Who wants to place a
bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Robert Schuh
09-01-2003, 12:51 PM
Boom wrote:
> >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY ****ing
> >moron has to use AOL?
>
> Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
> Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!
I realize that you are still living with Mommy and Daddy, but you need to know
that neither Yahoo nor Geocites are ISPs.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Robert Barker
09-01-2003, 01:09 PM
"Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
news:3F53953C.DDDE85C5@robschuh.com...
> Boom wrote:
>
> > >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY
****ing
> > >moron has to use AOL?
> >
> > Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
> > Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!
>
> I realize that you are still living with Mommy and Daddy, but you need to
know
> that neither Yahoo nor Geocites are ISPs.
>
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
>
>
Would you gentlemen please be so kind as to remove RMMG from your
cross-postings? Thanks. To any other groups that I'm cross-posting to, that
aren't the origin of these messages, my apologies.
>Why do you keep talking **** like you are some kind of tough guy? I have $
>here that says you are some teenage redneck who has never been in a real
>fight. You need to butch up a bit and tell us who you are. I am an open
>book asshole.
Yes, you are an open book asshole. Even if the book was closed, you'd
still be an asshole.
>I realize that you are still living with Mommy and Daddy, but you need to know
>that neither Yahoo nor Geocites are ISPs.
Like I give a rat's ass what a ****ing idiot on the internet thinks.
Until you have the balls to show your face on my doorstep, you are
nothing to me but a dickless little pussy boy whose mouth is bigger
than his brain. Goodbye.
Robert Barker
09-01-2003, 01:21 PM
"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> >Why do you keep talking **** like you are some kind of tough guy? I have
$
> >here that says you are some teenage redneck who has never been in a real
> >fight. You need to butch up a bit and tell us who you are. I am an open
> >book asshole.
>
> Yes, you are an open book asshole. Even if the book was closed, you'd
> still be an asshole.
Would you gentlemen please be so kind as to remove RMMG from your
cross-postings? Thanks. To any other groups that I'm cross-posting to, that
aren't the origin of these messages, my apologies.
Da Parrot-chick
09-01-2003, 01:23 PM
"Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
news:3F53924B.67E6D3D4@robschuh.com...
There was only 1 guy who made the pre CBS bass
> valuable. He died in 1987.
Who was that, Schuh?
Da Parrot-chick
09-01-2003, 01:27 PM
"Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
news:3F53930F.BAE77F60@robschuh.com...
> Why do you keep talking **** like you are some kind of tough guy? I have $
> here that says you are some teenage redneck who has never been in a real
> fight.
I got some book right here that says you ain't ****, you ain't never been
****, and your lifelong dream of rising to the level of **** will forever
remain unfulfilled.
You need to butch up a bit and tell us who you are. I am an open
> book asshole. You can find my address anywhere on the Internet. You can't
> even post a real name.
Post yours, Schuh. What's your address? You have mine. Post yours. Or
send it to me and I'll post it. Just saying you live in the Phoenix metro
area isn't saying you have an address.
Da Parrot-chick
09-01-2003, 01:30 PM
"Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
news:3F539457.3DC21253@robschuh.com...
> Boom wrote:
>
> > >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
> > >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
> > >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
> > >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
> > >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.
> >
> > Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
> > Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
> > world seem to adjust just fine to them.
> >
> > >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
> > >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
> > >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
> > >well met, you'd better forget that.
> >
> > This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
> > there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
> > perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
> > sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
> > their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
> > make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
> >
> > BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
> > complete ****ing dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
> > now I would like to cordially invite you to go **** yourself.
>
> Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician?
Ever' time I look in the mirror. Have you ever found the one without a
double-click metronome, Schuh?
Who wants to place a
> bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?
Well, I am on the inside. And I'm not a homophobe, Schuh. I don't hate
you. I just don't think you're worth five cents to put cheese on a Whopper.
Got nothing to do with your sexual orientation.
Besides, I didn't write the post you responded to--Boom did.
Richard F. Sayage
09-01-2003, 01:44 PM
As entertaining as this has been...I'm compelled to second the
request...please also remove rmcg from your posts. Thank you...and thank
you Mr. Barker!
--
Richard F. Sayage
www.savageclassical.com
http://www.orphee.com/rmcg/album-rmcg/album.html
http://www.savageclassical.com/rmcg/album-rmcg/album.html
"Robert Barker" <rwbarker@spambegonecox.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
> news:ks57lvk1on31fdqsf57h08ad4h92fh2vh9@4ax.com...
> > >Why do you keep talking **** like you are some kind of tough guy? I
have
> $
> > >here that says you are some teenage redneck who has never been in a
real
> > >fight. You need to butch up a bit and tell us who you are. I am an open
> > >book asshole.
> >
> > Yes, you are an open book asshole. Even if the book was closed, you'd
> > still be an asshole.
>
> Would you gentlemen please be so kind as to remove RMMG from your
> cross-postings? Thanks. To any other groups that I'm cross-posting to,
that
> aren't the origin of these messages, my apologies.
>
>
Nunya Bidni
09-01-2003, 01:53 PM
"Da Parrot-chick" <just@sk.me> wrote in message
news:p7N4b.5274$Lk5.1846@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
> "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
> news:3F539457.3DC21253@robschuh.com...
> > Boom wrote:
> >
> > > >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
> > > >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
> > > >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
> > > >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
> > > >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.
> > >
> > > Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
> > > Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
> > > world seem to adjust just fine to them.
> > >
> > > >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
> > > >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
> > > >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
> > > >well met, you'd better forget that.
> > >
> > > This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
> > > there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
> > > perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
> > > sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
> > > their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
> > > make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
> > >
> > > BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
> > > complete ****ing dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
> > > now I would like to cordially invite you to go **** yourself.
> >
> > Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician?
>
> Ever' time I look in the mirror. Have you ever found the one without a
> double-click metronome, Schuh?
>
> Who wants to place a
> > bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?
>
> Well, I am on the inside. And I'm not a homophobe, Schuh. I don't hate
> you. I just don't think you're worth five cents to put cheese on a
Whopper.
> Got nothing to do with your sexual orientation.
>
> Besides, I didn't write the post you responded to--Boom did.
Why don't you guys keep the adolescent dicksizing out of RMMG? Thanks!
-nyb
Edward Bridge
09-01-2003, 02:06 PM
I third the request.
Ed Bridge
www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com. . .
How's that Rich?
> request...
"Richard F. Sayage" <rsayage1@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:OkN4b.97619$yg.28697396@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et...
> As entertaining as this has been...I'm compelled to second the
> request...please also remove rmcg from your posts. Thank you...and thank
> you Mr. Barker!
>
> --
> Richard F. Sayage
> www.savageclassical.com
>
> http://www.orphee.com/rmcg/album-rmcg/album.html
> http://www.savageclassical.com/rmcg/album-rmcg/album.html
>
>
> "Robert Barker" <rwbarker@spambegonecox.net> wrote in message
> news:N_M4b.56723$0u4.27719@news1.central.cox.net.. .
> >
> > "Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
> > news:ks57lvk1on31fdqsf57h08ad4h92fh2vh9@4ax.com...
> > > >Why do you keep talking **** like you are some kind of tough guy? I
> have
> > $
> > > >here that says you are some teenage redneck who has never been in a
> real
> > > >fight. You need to butch up a bit and tell us who you are. I am an
open
> > > >book asshole.
> > >
> > > Yes, you are an open book asshole. Even if the book was closed, you'd
> > > still be an asshole.
> >
> > Would you gentlemen please be so kind as to remove RMMG from your
> > cross-postings? Thanks. To any other groups that I'm cross-posting to,
> that
> > aren't the origin of these messages, my apologies.
> >
> >
>
>
Roger Sherman
09-01-2003, 03:04 PM
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 11:42:23 -0700, Robert Schuh wrote:
> I am an open
> book asshole.
LOL...freudian comma?
--
peace,
Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com
Top 11 administration reactions to the Great Bush Blackout of '03:
11. "Get me out of harm's way!"
10. "Upgrading the infrastructure? Sounds like a job for Halliburton!"
9. "We've got to do something ... Oh, wait. They're all blue states."
8. "If only we had more people with energy experience in this administration."
7. "So much for your appearance on The Daily Show, Ms. Clinton! MUHWWAHAHAHAHA!"
6. "The energy industry needs a tax cut!"
5. "Endangered arctic wildlife, allow me to introduce Mr. Backhoe."
4. "Whatever, I'm going jogging."
3. "I'm telling you, we can sell it, 'Bill Clinton's penis took out a
transformer.'"
2. "Should we cancel the fundraiser? HAHAHAHAHHAHA!"
And the number one administration reaction to the Great Bush Blackout of '03...
1. "Hello, you've reached the office of de facto president Dick Cheney. I'm on a
vacation, but if you leave your name and number, I'll get back to you next
month."
Roger Sherman
09-01-2003, 03:09 PM
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 19:53:15 +0000, Nunya Bidni wrote:
>
> "Da Parrot-chick" <just@sk.me> wrote in message
> news:p7N4b.5274$Lk5.1846@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>
>> "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
>> news:3F539457.3DC21253@robschuh.com...
>> > Boom wrote:
>> >
>> > > >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
>> > > >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
>> > > >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
>> > > >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
>> > > >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.
>> > >
>> > > Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
>> > > Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
>> > > world seem to adjust just fine to them.
>> > >
>> > > >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
>> > > >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
>> > > >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
>> > > >well met, you'd better forget that.
>> > >
>> > > This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
>> > > there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
>> > > perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
>> > > sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
>> > > their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
>> > > make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
>> > >
>> > > BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
>> > > complete ****ing dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
>> > > now I would like to cordially invite you to go **** yourself.
>> >
>> > Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician?
>>
>> Ever' time I look in the mirror. Have you ever found the one without a
>> double-click metronome, Schuh?
>>
>> Who wants to place a
>> > bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?
>>
>> Well, I am on the inside. And I'm not a homophobe, Schuh. I don't hate
>> you. I just don't think you're worth five cents to put cheese on a
> Whopper.
>> Got nothing to do with your sexual orientation.
>>
>> Besides, I didn't write the post you responded to--Boom did.
>
> Why don't you guys keep the adolescent dicksizing out of RMMG? Thanks!
>
> -nyb
This is embarrassing. I've never seen one day where so many guitarists
called drummers immature, and had every right to do so.
--
peace,
Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com
Top 11 administration reactions to the Great Bush Blackout of '03:
11. "Get me out of harm's way!"
10. "Upgrading the infrastructure? Sounds like a job for Halliburton!"
9. "We've got to do something ... Oh, wait. They're all blue states."
8. "If only we had more people with energy experience in this administration."
7. "So much for your appearance on The Daily Show, Ms. Clinton! MUHWWAHAHAHAHA!"
6. "The energy industry needs a tax cut!"
5. "Endangered arctic wildlife, allow me to introduce Mr. Backhoe."
4. "Whatever, I'm going jogging."
3. "I'm telling you, we can sell it, 'Bill Clinton's penis took out a
transformer.'"
2. "Should we cancel the fundraiser? HAHAHAHAHHAHA!"
And the number one administration reaction to the Great Bush Blackout of '03...
1. "Hello, you've reached the office of de facto president Dick Cheney. I'm on a
vacation, but if you leave your name and number, I'll get back to you next
month."
bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net
09-01-2003, 04:29 PM
In rec.music.makers.percussion Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:
> Boom wrote:
>> This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
>> there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
>> perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
>> sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
>> their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
>> make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
Actually what shocks and surprises me is that there are bass playing
"producers" like yourself who know/care so little about music and so
much about ego that they are completely satisfied with the high
school level stuff flooding SA/GC. Great tone out of that Squire, eh?
Have you ever been to a real bass shop? I didn't think so.
> Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician? Who wants to place a
> bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?
Oh, wait! THAT explains everything!
Benj
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-MIKE-
09-01-2003, 04:36 PM
>>
>> Why don't you guys keep the adolescent dicksizing out of RMMG? Thanks!
>>
>> -nyb
>
> This is embarrassing. I've never seen one day where so many guitarists
> called drummers immature, and had every right to do so.
>
Typical guitarist arrogance and need for control. When all that's
needed is to ignore the post, they feel compelled to come in and
show us all who is boss. :-)
-MIKE-
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http://mikedrums.com
mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
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bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net
09-01-2003, 04:36 PM
In rec.music.makers.percussion -MIKE- <mike@mikedrumsdot.com> wrote:
> I don't know what it's like for bass/guitar department, but this is
> not a music store that cares about the advanced players. It would
> be like them not having enough strings for your bass, or telling you
> to just mix and match brands/types.
Just go check out the stock of 6-string sets for bass. Nice
...er..selection, no? I'm sure they can "order them for you".
:-)
Benj
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-MIKE-
09-01-2003, 04:51 PM
>> I don't know what it's like for bass/guitar department, but this is
>> not a music store that cares about the advanced players. It would
>> be like them not having enough strings for your bass, or telling you
>> to just mix and match brands/types.
>
> Just go check out the stock of 6-string sets for bass. Nice
> ..er..selection, no? I'm sure they can "order them for you".
> :-)
>
> Benj
Do they sell six string basses?
This store was loaded with kits in the same configuration I was
trying to buy heads for.
-MIKE-
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mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
George Lawrence
09-01-2003, 05:49 PM
Hell, the whole rmmp group seconds the request!
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
1351 S. Cleveland-Massillon Road #21
Copley, Ohio 44321
http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
http://www.Drumguru.com
330 670 0800
toll free 866 970 0800
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"Edward Bridge" <edbridge@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:oFN4b.15429$EW1.7034@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> I third the request.
> Ed Bridge
> www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com. . .
> How's that Rich?
>
>
> > request...
> "Richard F. Sayage" <rsayage1@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:OkN4b.97619$yg.28697396@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et...
> > As entertaining as this has been...I'm compelled to second the
> > request...please also remove rmcg from your posts. Thank you...and
thank
> > you Mr. Barker!
> >
> > --
> > Richard F. Sayage
> > www.savageclassical.com
> >
> > http://www.orphee.com/rmcg/album-rmcg/album.html
> > http://www.savageclassical.com/rmcg/album-rmcg/album.html
> >
> >
> > "Robert Barker" <rwbarker@spambegonecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:N_M4b.56723$0u4.27719@news1.central.cox.net.. .
> > >
> > > "Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ks57lvk1on31fdqsf57h08ad4h92fh2vh9@4ax.com...
> > > > >Why do you keep talking **** like you are some kind of tough guy? I
> > have
> > > $
> > > > >here that says you are some teenage redneck who has never been in a
> > real
> > > > >fight. You need to butch up a bit and tell us who you are. I am an
> open
> > > > >book asshole.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, you are an open book asshole. Even if the book was closed,
you'd
> > > > still be an asshole.
> > >
> > > Would you gentlemen please be so kind as to remove RMMG from your
> > > cross-postings? Thanks. To any other groups that I'm cross-posting to,
> > that
> > > aren't the origin of these messages, my apologies.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Dan Radin
09-01-2003, 05:57 PM
"-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
news:4P6dnRYdKtDhUM6iXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> Do they sell six string basses?
>
> This store was loaded with kits in the same configuration I was
> trying to buy heads for.
Law of averages. You wouldn't go to Wal-Mart for fine wine; you go there for
an $8 box (pronounced "bawx'a'wine" here) of hooch. Most people don't drop
big bucks on wine, so why stock it at Wal-Mart? By the same token, why would
you go to the Kmart of music stores and expect them to have that custom,
handmade ADM Jarrah mystery drum? ;-)
You have to realize the big box stores are deigned to be the
supermarkets/supercenters of music retail. They're not specialty shops. The
only time you'll really see kewl stuff in there is when you have guys like
Stu McConaghy at GC in New Haven, or some of the guys I worked with, who
really care about the upper line stuff and develop enough pull with
purchasing to get some freedom in stock.
Oh, and please stop cross-posting, guys. It's SPAM in the purest sense, and
it takes two seconds to delete the addresses to which you don't want to
send.
bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net
09-01-2003, 05:59 PM
In rec.music.makers.percussion -MIKE- <mike@mikedrumsdot.com> wrote:
>> Just go check out the stock of 6-string sets for bass. Nice
>> ..er..selection, no? I'm sure they can "order them for you".
>> :-)
>>
>> Benj
> Do they sell six string basses?
> This store was loaded with kits in the same configuration I was
> trying to buy heads for.
Actually they do. SA often has a decent selection with some
Ken Smiths and Yamaha 6's. Which makes it even weirder that
that the 6-string string set selection is so sparse.
But that is no different than not having heads for the
exact kits the store is loaded with.
But the real explanation has to do with judgement and
selection. If you go to a store that caters more to
working musicians rather than to newbies, you find that
often the size of the stock of heads/strings/etc.
is actually smaller than the chains. But the owners
(Typically being decent musicians themselves) exercise
some judgement as to which brands/sizes/styles are cool
and which ones are ones you'd buy once and never buy
again. They don't bother with the latter. So while
SA/GC may have a huge wall of strings or a mile of drumheads,
it doesn't mean much because like you with a sensible
need (a complete set of heads) they never thought
in those terms. They just think, gosh look at
all those brands and sizes we stock isn't that great!
Benj
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-MIKE-
09-01-2003, 06:46 PM
>> Do they sell six string basses?
>>
>> This store was loaded with kits in the same configuration I was
>> trying to buy heads for.
>
> Law of averages. You wouldn't go to Wal-Mart for fine wine; you go there
> for an $8 box (pronounced "bawx'a'wine" here) of hooch. Most people don't
> drop big bucks on wine, so why stock it at Wal-Mart? By the same token,
> why would you go to the Kmart of music stores and expect them to have that
> custom, handmade ADM Jarrah mystery drum? ;-)
Dan, all I wanted was a matching set of heads. :-)
-MIKE-
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mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
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Dan Radin
09-01-2003, 06:53 PM
"George Lawrence" <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:kWQ4b.17855$Ih1.6757112@newssrv26.news.prodig y.com...
> Hell, the whole rmmp group seconds the request!
I second your seconadge, good sir.
Roger Sherman
09-01-2003, 07:03 PM
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:36:43 -0500, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>
>>> Why don't you guys keep the adolescent dicksizing out of RMMG? Thanks!
>>>
>>> -nyb
>>
>> This is embarrassing. I've never seen one day where so many guitarists
>> called drummers immature, and had every right to do so.
>>
>
> Typical guitarist arrogance and need for control. When all that's
> needed is to ignore the post, they feel compelled to come in and
> show us all who is boss. :-)
>
>
> -MIKE-
Thank you, Mike. ;-)
--
peace,
Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com
Top 11 administration reactions to the Great Bush Blackout of '03:
11. "Get me out of harm's way!"
10. "Upgrading the infrastructure? Sounds like a job for Halliburton!"
9. "We've got to do something ... Oh, wait. They're all blue states."
8. "If only we had more people with energy experience in this administration."
7. "So much for your appearance on The Daily Show, Ms. Clinton! MUHWWAHAHAHAHA!"
6. "The energy industry needs a tax cut!"
5. "Endangered arctic wildlife, allow me to introduce Mr. Backhoe."
4. "Whatever, I'm going jogging."
3. "I'm telling you, we can sell it, 'Bill Clinton's penis took out a
transformer.'"
2. "Should we cancel the fundraiser? HAHAHAHAHHAHA!"
And the number one administration reaction to the Great Bush Blackout of '03...
1. "Hello, you've reached the office of de facto president Dick Cheney. I'm on a
vacation, but if you leave your name and number, I'll get back to you next
month."
bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net
09-01-2003, 07:32 PM
In rec.music.makers.percussion George Lawrence <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote:
> Hell, the whole rmmp group seconds the request!
Not the WHOLE rmmp, George.
SOME of us are savoring the moment to have
a bunch of guitarists telling US to "turn down"
for a change and for us to ignore them just
like they do us!
I've had enough fun. I'm outta here.
Benj
Dan Radin
09-01-2003, 07:59 PM
"-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
news:RYSdnawhkuXXdc6iXTWJkQ@comcast.com...
> >> Do they sell six string basses?
> >>
> >> This store was loaded with kits in the same configuration I was
> >> trying to buy heads for.
> >
> > Law of averages. You wouldn't go to Wal-Mart for fine wine; you go there
> > for an $8 box (pronounced "bawx'a'wine" here) of hooch. Most people
don't
> > drop big bucks on wine, so why stock it at Wal-Mart? By the same token,
> > why would you go to the Kmart of music stores and expect them to have
that
> > custom, handmade ADM Jarrah mystery drum? ;-)
>
>
> Dan, all I wanted was a matching set of heads. :-)
Yeah, but you were probably looking for 14" Coated Ambassadors. Why would
they stock those? :-)
bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net
09-01-2003, 08:04 PM
In rec.music.makers.percussion bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net wrote:
> In rec.music.makers.percussion George Lawrence <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> Hell, the whole rmmp group seconds the request!
> I've had enough fun. I'm outta here.
No wait. One last thing before I sign off the party line
here. I noticed that over in the bass group this thread
has been reformed to be cross-posted ONLY to a variety
of guitar/amp/bass groups. And therein is an on-going
discussion of the key issue of music chains/mom and pop
stores and other issues relating to shopping at big chains.
I find this interesting in that the guitarist requests
to be removed from the discussion started even before
the adolescent Schuh/Boom/me exchanges. One would think
that an issue like this for stores with departments cutting
across various instruments would a perfect topic for
wider discussion among groups. In my view cross-posting
is a GOOD thing if the topic is valid to all cross-posted
groups. But it seems in the guitar/bass crowd, a discussion
wider than just guitarists only means they include a few bass
players too. Drummers (and other non-musicians) not welcome!
Now I'm outta here.
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>In rec.music.makers.percussion George Lawrence <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>> Hell, the whole rmmp group seconds the request!
>
>Not the WHOLE rmmp, George.
>SOME of us are savoring the moment to have
>a bunch of guitarists telling US to "turn down"
>for a change and for us to ignore them just
>like they do us!
>
>I've had enough fun. I'm outta here.
Bye, pussy.
Richard F. Sayage
09-01-2003, 08:30 PM
Well, it sure is nice to hear from the other groups. How y'all doin?
(it's rhetorical, but I do mean to say hello...don't wanna flood the ng now
with a gazillion hellos now do we!!!) Nice when you can take a nasty thread
and give yourself a chance to throw out a friendly hello to everyone! :-)
Peace and all kinds of good stuff to everyone.
By the way, me and a buddy just ordered a whole bunch of stuff from GC
on-line (strings for classical, acoustic, & acoustic/electric bass), and a
hardshell, really cool lookin' Fender case for a BG29 Acoustic Bass) and it
went down smooth as a vanilla milkshake. Bait and switch? Well, heck now,
that's pretty standard fare for any retail outlet store, may it be
electronics, furniture, or whatever. Not always, but jeez, you're all (some
of you anyways) are talkin' like you never been shopping before...
Now, the on-line experience was inexpensive, free shipping over $199
orders and no worries, no hassles, no waiting, no b.s. and it's at my door
in 3 business days or less, so maybe that's how y'all should do it? ...
then again, I usually know exactly what I want (typical of guys,
in/out...see ya...gotta love that) I call that "visiting the
prostitu...uh...ok...too much info there....movin' on...(disclaimer...I do
not visit professional sex engineers...it was a joke...I'm really too good
lookin' for that anyways...no really...okay okay...I kid I kid...the old
Rodney Dangerfield joke comes to mind...heh, I was so ugly, when I was first
born, they slapped my mother and not me)...btw...how'd you like that sex
engineer thing...nice huh? :-)
Now ... back on topic...can they (GC, I figure you mighta forgot what I
was talkin' about) set me up with a high end classical guitar?...well, of
course not, (they think they can, but they can't) and I don't go there for
that, but I knew that before I said, "hmmm, I needs me to spend $6 g's on a
geetar...best be gettin' in my car and gets my ass over to Guitar Center and
gets me one"....Hell, I got friends in the business that I trust, eBay (if
you like rollin' dice), and oh, I don't know, about ten or a freakin'
hundred top guitar makers that I can contact direct and pick one out, so
what're we talkin' about here? You use 'em (GC) for what you need and see
ya! (no offense to mom & pop stores...I really wish it could be different,
but it isn't and we need to deal with it)...
....and no, I'm not in any way affiliated with GC, Sam Ash, or any other
music store...I just tell it like it is (that reads "the way I see it",
which ain't necessarily the way it is, if you get my meaning)...no, really,
ask anyone! :-) Have fun and be cool. hope you enjoyed...and feel bad
for the peoples on rmcg...they have to deal with me
constantly...hehehe...hee
--
Richard F. Sayage
www.savageclassical.com
http://www.orphee.com/rmcg/album-rmcg/album.html
http://www.savageclassical.com/rmcg/album-rmcg/album.html
<bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net> wrote in message
news:bj0rv8$pp2$2@tribune.oar.net...
> In rec.music.makers.percussion George Lawrence <drumguru@ameritech.net>
wrote:
>
> > Hell, the whole rmmp group seconds the request!
>
> Not the WHOLE rmmp, George.
> SOME of us are savoring the moment to have
> a bunch of guitarists telling US to "turn down"
> for a change and for us to ignore them just
> like they do us!
>
> I've had enough fun. I'm outta here.
>
> Benj
Richard F. Sayage
09-01-2003, 08:34 PM
heh, it occurs to me that I said goodbye in the first paragraph...and then
look what happens! :-) see...I told you guys on rmcg...I love everybody!!!
Rich
"Richard F. Sayage" <rsayage1@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:WgT4b.101114$yg.30812763@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net...
> Well, it sure is nice to hear from the other groups. How y'all doin?
> (it's rhetorical, but I do mean to say hello...don't wanna flood the ng
now
> with a gazillion hellos now do we!!!) Nice when you can take a nasty
thread
> and give yourself a chance to throw out a friendly hello to everyone! :-)
> Peace and all kinds of good stuff to everyone.
> By the way, me and a buddy just ordered a whole bunch of stuff from GC
> on-line (strings for classical, acoustic, & acoustic/electric bass), and
a
> hardshell, really cool lookin' Fender case for a BG29 Acoustic Bass) and
it
> went down smooth as a vanilla milkshake. Bait and switch? Well, heck
now,
> that's pretty standard fare for any retail outlet store, may it be
> electronics, furniture, or whatever. Not always, but jeez, you're all
(some
> of you anyways) are talkin' like you never been shopping before...
> Now, the on-line experience was inexpensive, free shipping over $199
> orders and no worries, no hassles, no waiting, no b.s. and it's at my door
> in 3 business days or less, so maybe that's how y'all should do it? ...
> then again, I usually know exactly what I want (typical of guys,
> in/out...see ya...gotta love that) I call that "visiting the
> prostitu...uh...ok...too much info there....movin' on...(disclaimer...I do
> not visit professional sex engineers...it was a joke...I'm really too good
> lookin' for that anyways...no really...okay okay...I kid I kid...the old
> Rodney Dangerfield joke comes to mind...heh, I was so ugly, when I was
first
> born, they slapped my mother and not me)...btw...how'd you like that sex
> engineer thing...nice huh? :-)
> Now ... back on topic...can they (GC, I figure you mighta forgot what
I
> was talkin' about) set me up with a high end classical guitar?...well, of
> course not, (they think they can, but they can't) and I don't go there for
> that, but I knew that before I said, "hmmm, I needs me to spend $6 g's on
a
> geetar...best be gettin' in my car and gets my ass over to Guitar Center
and
> gets me one"....Hell, I got friends in the business that I trust, eBay (if
> you like rollin' dice), and oh, I don't know, about ten or a freakin'
> hundred top guitar makers that I can contact direct and pick one out, so
> what're we talkin' about here? You use 'em (GC) for what you need and see
> ya! (no offense to mom & pop stores...I really wish it could be
different,
> but it isn't and we need to deal with it)...
>
> ...and no, I'm not in any way affiliated with GC, Sam Ash, or any other
> music store...I just tell it like it is (that reads "the way I see it",
> which ain't necessarily the way it is, if you get my meaning)...no,
really,
> ask anyone! :-) Have fun and be cool. hope you enjoyed...and feel bad
> for the peoples on rmcg...they have to deal with me
> constantly...hehehe...hee
>
> --
> Richard F. Sayage
> www.savageclassical.com
>
> http://www.orphee.com/rmcg/album-rmcg/album.html
> http://www.savageclassical.com/rmcg/album-rmcg/album.html
>
>
> <bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net> wrote in message
> news:bj0rv8$pp2$2@tribune.oar.net...
> > In rec.music.makers.percussion George Lawrence <drumguru@ameritech.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hell, the whole rmmp group seconds the request!
> >
> > Not the WHOLE rmmp, George.
> > SOME of us are savoring the moment to have
> > a bunch of guitarists telling US to "turn down"
> > for a change and for us to ignore them just
> > like they do us!
> >
> > I've had enough fun. I'm outta here.
> >
> > Benj
>
>
-MIKE-
09-01-2003, 09:39 PM
>> Dan, all I wanted was a matching set of heads. :-)
>
> Yeah, but you were probably looking for 14" Coated Ambassadors. Why would
> they stock those? :-)
>
They seemed to have plenty of "Double Stuff Hydraulic
Powerdot-Top-n-Bottom 3 ply Pinstripe Foam Ring" heads in 14".
:-)
-MIKE-
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http://mikedrums.com
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Glenn Dowdy
09-01-2003, 09:59 PM
"-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
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> >> Dan, all I wanted was a matching set of heads. :-)
> >
> > Yeah, but you were probably looking for 14" Coated Ambassadors. Why
would
> > they stock those? :-)
> >
>
>
> They seemed to have plenty of "Double Stuff Hydraulic
> Powerdot-Top-n-Bottom 3 ply Pinstripe Foam Ring" heads in 14".
> :-)
Yeah, but what about the DSHPTB3PFR vented dry?
Glenn D.
George Lawrence
09-01-2003, 10:28 PM
Cross posting is like going to one of those old convention centers where the
different conventions are separated by thin sliding doors. Open all the
doors and you betcha there's going to be chaos
--
George Lawrence
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buy each of his children a drum."
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<bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net> wrote in message
news:bj0tqo$rne$1@tribune.oar.net...
> In rec.music.makers.percussion bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net wrote:
> > In rec.music.makers.percussion George Lawrence <drumguru@ameritech.net>
wrote:
>
> >> Hell, the whole rmmp group seconds the request!
>
> > I've had enough fun. I'm outta here.
>
> No wait. One last thing before I sign off the party line
> here. I noticed that over in the bass group this thread
> has been reformed to be cross-posted ONLY to a variety
> of guitar/amp/bass groups. And therein is an on-going
> discussion of the key issue of music chains/mom and pop
> stores and other issues relating to shopping at big chains.
>
> I find this interesting in that the guitarist requests
> to be removed from the discussion started even before
> the adolescent Schuh/Boom/me exchanges. One would think
> that an issue like this for stores with departments cutting
> across various instruments would a perfect topic for
> wider discussion among groups. In my view cross-posting
> is a GOOD thing if the topic is valid to all cross-posted
> groups. But it seems in the guitar/bass crowd, a discussion
> wider than just guitarists only means they include a few bass
> players too. Drummers (and other non-musicians) not welcome!
>
> Now I'm outta here.
>
> --
> SPAM-Guard! Remove .users (if present) to email me!
-MIKE-
09-01-2003, 11:13 PM
> Cross posting is like going to one of those old convention centers where
> the different conventions are separated by thin sliding doors. Open all
> the doors and you betcha there's going to be chaos
>
> --
> George Lawrence
>
Oh sh!t, George. I pissed myself! LMAO
-MIKE-
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-MIKE-
09-01-2003, 11:15 PM
>>
>>
>> They seemed to have plenty of "Double Stuff Hydraulic
>> Powerdot-Top-n-Bottom 3 ply Pinstripe Foam Ring" heads in 14".
>> :-)
>
> Yeah, but what about the DSHPTB3PFR vented dry?
>
> Glenn D.
>
>
Yeah, but have you seen the new DSHPTB3PFR-VD with integrated
MoonGels?
-MIKE-
--
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mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
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Dan Radin
09-01-2003, 11:22 PM
"-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
news:2_qcnatSROzBusmiU-KYuQ@comcast.com...
> >>
> >>
> >> They seemed to have plenty of "Double Stuff Hydraulic
> >> Powerdot-Top-n-Bottom 3 ply Pinstripe Foam Ring" heads in 14".
> >> :-)
> >
> > Yeah, but what about the DSHPTB3PFR vented dry?
> >
> > Glenn D.
> >
> >
>
>
> Yeah, but have you seen the new DSHPTB3PFR-VD with integrated
> MoonGels?
>
>
> -MIKE-
Hey...fuggetaboudit, ya gotta stock what sells!
Robert Schuh
09-01-2003, 11:49 PM
> Da Parrot-chick" <just@sk.me> wrote in message
> news:p7N4b.5274$Lk5.1846@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> >
> > "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F539457.3DC21253@robschuh.com...
> > > Boom wrote:
> > >
> > > > >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
> > > > >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
> > > > >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
> > > > >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
> > > > >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.
> > > >
> > > > Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
> > > > Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
> > > > world seem to adjust just fine to them.
> > > >
> > > > >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
> > > > >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
> > > > >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
> > > > >well met, you'd better forget that.
> > > >
> > > > This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
> > > > there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
> > > > perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
> > > > sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
> > > > their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
> > > > make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
> > > > complete ****ing dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
> > > > now I would like to cordially invite you to go **** yourself.
> > >
> > > Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician?
> >
> > Ever' time I look in the mirror. Have you ever found the one without a
> > double-click metronome, Schuh?
> >
> > Who wants to place a
> > > bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?
> >
> > Well, I am on the inside. And I'm not a homophobe, Schuh. I don't hate
> > you. I just don't think you're worth five cents to put cheese on a
> Whopper.
> > Got nothing to do with your sexual orientation.
>
> >
> > Besides, I didn't write the post you responded to--Boom did.
>
I realize that, so why did you respond? I was responding to Boom. Talk about
paranoia. Get a ****ing life.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Robert Schuh
09-01-2003, 11:57 PM
Da Parrot-chick wrote:
> "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
> news:3F539457.3DC21253@robschuh.com...
> > Boom wrote:
> >
> > > >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
> > > >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
> > > >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
> > > >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
> > > >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.
> > >
> > > Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
> > > Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
> > > world seem to adjust just fine to them.
> > >
> > > >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
> > > >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
> > > >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
> > > >well met, you'd better forget that.
> > >
> > > This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
> > > there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
> > > perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
> > > sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
> > > their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
> > > make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
> > >
> > > BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
> > > complete ****ing dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
> > > now I would like to cordially invite you to go **** yourself.
> >
> > Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician?
>
> Ever' time I look in the mirror. Have you ever found the one without a
> double-click metronome, Schuh?
>
> Who wants to place a
> > bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?
>
> Well, I am on the inside. And I'm not a homophobe, Schuh. I don't hate
> you. I just don't think you're worth five cents to put cheese on a Whopper.
> Got nothing to do with your sexual orientation.
>
> Besides, I didn't write the post you responded to--Boom did.
You REALLY need to get a life. I was responding to the other no talent ****.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Da Parrot-chick
09-02-2003, 03:05 AM
"Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
news:3F542F82.B4FAB634@robschuh.com...
> I realize that, so why did you respond? I was responding to Boom. Talk
about
> paranoia. Get a ****ing life.
You didn't ask me to butch up or eat a gun. What happened? All I get is a
"Get a ****ing life"? I thought you cared...
Da Parrot-chick
09-02-2003, 03:08 AM
"Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
news:3F543174.96FC8B00@robschuh.com...
> Da Parrot-chick wrote:
>
> > "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F539457.3DC21253@robschuh.com...
> > > Boom wrote:
> > >
> > > > >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
> > > > >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
> > > > >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
> > > > >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
> > > > >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.
> > > >
> > > > Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan
or
> > > > Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
> > > > world seem to adjust just fine to them.
> > > >
> > > > >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
> > > > >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
> > > > >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
> > > > >well met, you'd better forget that.
> > > >
> > > > This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
> > > > there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
> > > > perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam
Ash
> > > > sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
> > > > their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
> > > > make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
> > > > complete ****ing dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
> > > > now I would like to cordially invite you to go **** yourself.
> > >
> > > Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician?
> >
> > Ever' time I look in the mirror. Have you ever found the one without a
> > double-click metronome, Schuh?
> >
> > Who wants to place a
> > > bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?
> >
> > Well, I am on the inside. And I'm not a homophobe, Schuh. I don't hate
> > you. I just don't think you're worth five cents to put cheese on a
Whopper.
> > Got nothing to do with your sexual orientation.
> >
> > Besides, I didn't write the post you responded to--Boom did.
>
> You REALLY need to get a life. I was responding to the other no talent
****.
You called out my name, Schuh. And you were talking to another man. Read
it yourself; you quoted it. No go practice your press rolls, you
pretzel-brain, groove-challenged, outta-work, fetid piece of day-old maggot
poo.
drumdude
09-02-2003, 06:16 AM
before you know