Ride Groove with Left-Handed H-H Filler

[Adrian Mongeli]

There's a groove I'm hearing a lot these days, which I didn't hear at all
during the 80-90's. Usually its a simple ride groove where the drummer
inserts hi-hat fills with the left-hand on the off-beats. ( ..hope I'm
explaining this clearly. )

Was the "left-handed, hi-hat filler" lick around during the 80-90s? Or did
I just not hear it? To me it appears as if this beat emerged in the late
90's as a result of music trends.

Best wishes,

Adrian Mongeli
http://www.digicodesys.com/drumpage

[kyrre laastad]

"Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> skrev i melding
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> There's a groove I'm hearing a lot these days, which I didn't hear at all
> during the 80-90's. Usually its a simple ride groove where the drummer
> inserts hi-hat fills with the left-hand on the off-beats. ( ..hope I'm
> explaining this clearly. )

or better yet, your foot on the hi-hat. i use it all the time. the groove
get`s fuller and wider i feel.

reagards,
-k

[Wishbone]

Not exactly what you mean. May need an example.
Sounds like you are talking about the standard 70's disco hi hat on
the"ands" of each beat.


"Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> There's a groove I'm hearing a lot these days, which I didn't hear at all
> during the 80-90's. Usually its a simple ride groove where the drummer
> inserts hi-hat fills with the left-hand on the off-beats. ( ..hope I'm
> explaining this clearly. )
>
> Was the "left-handed, hi-hat filler" lick around during the 80-90s? Or
did
> I just not hear it? To me it appears as if this beat emerged in the late
> 90's as a result of music trends.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Adrian Mongeli
> http://www.digicodesys.com/drumpage
>
>
>
>

[Adrian Mongeli]

No, not the classic disco beat.

Here is an MP3 example of the groove I'm speaking off....

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/452/porcupine_tree-lava_record.html

On the hi-fi version of Porcupine Tree's "Blackest Eyes", the groove starts
at 01:30 into the song.

Cya!
- Adrian




"Wishbone" <mark.watts@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Not exactly what you mean. May need an example.
> Sounds like you are talking about the standard 70's disco hi hat on
> the"ands" of each beat.
>
>
> "Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:pn85b.16396$uZ6.1217409@twister.socal.rr.com. ..
> > There's a groove I'm hearing a lot these days, which I didn't hear at
all
> > during the 80-90's. Usually its a simple ride groove where the drummer
> > inserts hi-hat fills with the left-hand on the off-beats. ( ..hope I'm
> > explaining this clearly. )
> >
> > Was the "left-handed, hi-hat filler" lick around during the 80-90s? Or
> did
> > I just not hear it? To me it appears as if this beat emerged in the
late
> > 90's as a result of music trends.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Adrian Mongeli
> > http://www.digicodesys.com/drumpage
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Dan Radin]

"Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/452/porcupine_tree-lava_record.html
>
> On the hi-fi version of Porcupine Tree's "Blackest Eyes", the groove
starts
> at 01:30 into the song.

Interesting tune. Kinda sounds like half the band wants to be in Tool, and
the other half wants to be in Duran Duran. I know the groove you're talking
about. I think it's a product of drum machine programmers, who might put a
constant ride/hat groove on the "right hand" part, and punctuate it with
hi-hat notes. This groove is the drumset application of those grooves.
Maybe? :-)

[morris]

"Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message news:<pn85b.16396$uZ6.1217409@twister.socal.rr.com>...
> There's a groove I'm hearing a lot these days, which I didn't hear at all
> during the 80-90's. Usually its a simple ride groove where the drummer
> inserts hi-hat fills with the left-hand on the off-beats. ( ..hope I'm
> explaining this clearly. )
>
> Was the "left-handed, hi-hat filler" lick around during the 80-90s? Or did
> I just not hear it? To me it appears as if this beat emerged in the late
> 90's as a result of music trends.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Adrian Mongeli
> http://www.digicodesys.com/drumpage

this could just be guys moving the ghost notes from the snare drum to
the hats. Then you add the Left footwork to it and it creates some
nice layering.

The more modern latin drum set players use this A LOT, especially ona
groove called Songo.

[Adrian Mongeli]

Hi Dan,

Very good points. It does have the drum machine feel now that you mention
it.

As for Porcupine Tree. They are awesome. They've been around for quite a
while. Their newest drummer is Gavin Harrison. You should hear their other
material on that MP3 page.. very cool stuff.

Take care!
- Adrian



"Dan Radin" <dan.radin@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:eza5b.16425$uZ6.1226746@twister.socal.rr.com. ..
> > http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/452/porcupine_tree-lava_record.html
> >
> > On the hi-fi version of Porcupine Tree's "Blackest Eyes", the groove
> starts
> > at 01:30 into the song.
>
> Interesting tune. Kinda sounds like half the band wants to be in Tool, and
> the other half wants to be in Duran Duran. I know the groove you're
talking
> about. I think it's a product of drum machine programmers, who might put a
> constant ride/hat groove on the "right hand" part, and punctuate it with
> hi-hat notes. This groove is the drumset application of those grooves.
> Maybe? :-)
>
>

[e n | c k m a]

>
> Was the "left-handed, hi-hat filler" lick around during the 80-90s?
>

Yeah, Simple Minds - Don't You (Forget About Me) comes to mind... unless he
just overdubbed... but I doubt it. It happens towards the end - after that
wicked roll intro after the break.

Nick.

[e n | c k m a]

>
> http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/452/porcupine_tree-lava_record.html
>

That song rocks.

Listening to that recording, I know what you're talking about - Creed's
drummer seems to do it quite a lot... it's annoying [when he does it].