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zercowsky
06-21-2002, 03:15 PM
Is there a way to change midi to wave (and vice versa)
magicamente
07-01-2002, 02:08 PM
I have the same problem. is live recording the only way?
cnsmith
07-02-2002, 11:27 AM
as far as i can figure the only way is live if it is from an internal sndcard u can use the stereo mix recording volume to capture it
dvdlei
07-08-2002, 08:18 AM
midi to wave :
you can capture the output of your soundcard.. or just record and select 'what you hear' in your record channel options.
wave to midi:
not possible if using with polyfonic music.
advancedflea
08-15-2002, 03:03 PM
you can convert midi to .wav and .mp3 using various tools (or live recording) but there is no way to convert .wav/.mp3/.wma to midi. it is just to "complicated" for the computer
mriev
08-15-2002, 09:27 PM
There are several pretty good midi to wave converters out there, including a few free ones, just do a web search for "midi to wave". The wave to midi converters I've seen tend to produce less than desirable results on polyphonic music.
advancedflea
08-16-2002, 01:11 AM
forget doing a serch of the eintre web, just do a serch on www.download.com. it comes back with about 1000 results and you can see weather they are free, what limmitations they have (if any) before you download
Ive said this before and i'll say it again :rolleyes:
MIDI to WAV is not possible (or if it is its very complex with very random results).
WAV is a form of digital audio file. MIDI is a protocol that sends data to pieces of equipment allowing them to "talk" to each other. A MIDI file is a collection of instructions, at the most basic level note on and note off, telling your soundcard/keyboard/softsynth/sampler/etc etc to trigger a note at a certain time (measured in bars beats and ticks) and release it. There is no audio data contained in MIDI, therefore you would be converting your WAV to nothing.
An interesting way to think about it is imagine trying to convert a bitmap image of a scanned letter into a Microsoft Word document to edit the text. Impossible in other words
Hope that helps?
advancedflea
08-26-2002, 04:09 PM
D200. much as I don't like to contradict ppl, basically because it caueses trouble but Midi to Wav is possible, its wav to midi that isn't possible. but otherwise you are right, if you go wav to midi the results are random much less annoying when you have spent all that time trying and got nowhere
Oooops thats my mistake.
I meant to type the other way round - ie: WAV to MIDI is not possible.
Sorry :hit:
Of course MIDI to WAV Is possible, otherwise we wouldnt have pop music! ;)
advancedflea
08-28-2002, 03:01 PM
I thought It was just asimple Type-o. I generally trust that people aren't dumb enough not to be able to use sound recorder. :) and yes, u r quite right. without midi, there would be no pop music
The Keeper
08-29-2002, 06:40 PM
d200, I almost went back to the drawing board. thank goodness for typos, my career almost ended in one statement
advancedflea
08-29-2002, 06:43 PM
Your career?
The Keeper
08-30-2002, 05:32 PM
well, it was hobby, until i started making money out of music & midis
advancedflea
08-30-2002, 05:42 PM
ah! righit! I getcha. I'm going into a career with music technology, u know, mixing, making midis, settinmg up recording studios. etc. there is alot of call for that over here.
The Keeper
08-31-2002, 06:09 PM
advancedflea, maybe we should swap ideas. I've just released a country album(bit different considering i was in a heavy metal band) I'm solo naw, program midis, produced the album myself, wrote the songs with another soloist. Set my house up as a studio, used midi to start with, but the drums and pedal steel were the only midi instruments in the end. went through 'humanizing' the drums and used an external drum module. Came up with a pretty good cd, mastered it myself by going to forums like this and finding out what to do.
here's my midi page if you want to check it out, click the 'gympie gold' button to go to the album page. by the way, where's wolverhampton?
home.austarnet.com.au/madcatz/
The Keeper
08-31-2002, 06:11 PM
sorry, that's my home page, click on mifiles for midi's, gympie gold for album
advancedflea
08-31-2002, 06:19 PM
yeah, sure, perhaps it would b a good idea for us to swapp ideas. erm...you can either PM me on midibuddy. Or you can I.M me on AOL (My aol handle is advancedflea) or ICQ (ICQ# 165045738) and I can give u my windows/msn messenger address (if you want it) privately. but we can chat on any of the above.
I dont have a homepage for my music, only for photos of me and my friends goofing on various school trips ( http://rulestheweb.com/thepictures )
lostdave
08-31-2002, 07:31 PM
Hi Merlin,
I am a bit south of you (by about an hour)
Bit of a crossover...Hm to country???
Was it always an interest..or just happened that way.
pulled down one of the demo tracks off your album... what hardware and software did you do it with? Sounds Quite good :D
Dave
advancedflea
09-01-2002, 11:34 AM
Yeahb, I gotta agree with dave. it sounds good.
infinite
09-01-2002, 07:27 PM
i think u have to record it live.... i mean within the computer using MIX Output RECORDING... :::i think:::
ArtieFufkin
09-02-2002, 04:28 PM
Sorry to contradict D200 on an off-topic, but YOU CAN convert bitmaps into editable Word documents. You can even convert scanned music transcriptions into midi files as well. But, you're absolutely right, .WAV to midi, even monophonically, is a waste of time.
The Keeper
09-03-2002, 05:53 AM
I need about 300 words to get out what I want to say. thnx advancedflea & lostdave for commenting on the album. I was in a band called 'Ice' about 15 years ago to 10 years ago(therefore it went four 5 years). we did the hard life, etc etc, had 2 songs on triplej, played festival hall a couple of times, won battles of the bands etc. Then the'sex,drugs,R&R kicked in, the guys lost the plot, i said farewell losers. next phase, solo. That was 10 years ago. yadayadayada, now I work all the rsl, bowls, leagues, pubs from beaudesert to hervey bay.
enter another soloist who works the same circuit. he's won awards for amateur song writing, in the country industry. says he writes words easy, music hard, I'm the opposite, music easy words hard. let's write something, the rest is the album(was going to say history, oh the cliche!)
recording process, I write midifiles; no good for doing country all live; stuff that, midifiles; ok midifiles. then went from that to playing all the instruments and recording on home computer, after researching everything on the net. i ended up doing the bass as well, i already played keys and guitar, so bass was fairly easy. trial and error, mastered and produced it myself, more money in country than heavy metal, as far as i was concerned, also too old for the metal now. the only 'unlive' bit was the drums due to financial(we had no money) and studio(we had no studio) and mikes( we had one mike). All in all, turned out pretty good, but i learned a lot of do's and don't's and now have my **** together. also had a guy from missouri send me $20 american today, liked what he heard on my page and bought the album. Does that make me an international recording artist???
advancedflea
09-03-2002, 02:26 PM
I'm in a band. we dont do it for the "sex,drugs and r&r" or the money, we do it for the hell of it, and have fun on the way. :)
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